Fediverse

When was the last time that people who banned others based on country of origin were the good guys?

That sounds like something you should do with content moderation rather than technologically.

There are also world politics communities, that explicitly ban US and other global north news. There are also country specific news communities as well. That's kind of what having multiple communities is for.

If people aren't willing to subscribe to those communities, they're likely less willing to use a whole different lemmy instance.

You could try but I feel its needlessly complex and antagonistic. Like get the politics are horrible but we dont actually hate american people right? IMO you can get close enough to your goal by filtering American politics out, blocking news/politics communities and then setting up a non america news and non american politics community and boom you've pretty much got an "america free instance"

Once shared blocklists get added I feel this will be easier to setup and distribute.

I mean, you can make whatever you want. And I get it, to quote The Clash, I'm pretty bored of the USA too.

Of course, an IP block isn't going to work because an American like myself can just use a VPN in another country to get around it. And yes, the moment you start federating with other instances you're going to come across American stuff again, so unless you isolate your instance (which you could do... but then people are unlikely to join it) you're gonna have to deal with Americans.

With that said, I actually think it's a great idea for people to make regional fediverse servers, not necessarily to block out Americans in an attempt at digital nationalism/isolationalism... But to make sure that the infrastructure of the internet is not so America-centric, and to make it so that there is always a place to talk about local issues and events that matter to you, in your native language.

Even as an American, I feel that right now the internet is far too reliant on American infrastructure, services and communities.

I'd love to see, for example, Japanese lemmy server, an Italian mastodon server, a German peertube server, a Brazilian pixelfed server, a Canadian misskey server, and so on.

I just think that banning Americans and American topics is probably not an effective way to do it, particularly because there are lessons to be learned for us all about what is going on here right now.

Should the EU instances also ban everyone from the UK because of Brexit?

Filters exist in Piefed so I hear, and you can already block instances and communities and users you feel are too American focused.

no americans allowed? that seems to be a very, very bad idea to me. let's not go there.

I'm all for it. Just make sure the ip block is only for posting not reading. Some of us here want out.

you need people to shitpost. unfortunately that means the USaians and their fucking constant barrage of political failure news.

Nothing wrong with the yanks, but their constant news that overtake any other things happening around the world is fucking annoying.

During federation the IP address and country of the accounts involved is not shared with other instances so although you could lock down your instance as soon as you federate you'd have people from all over sending you content.

Do it, dude. I'd join an instance where USAian talk isn't allowed. Fuck, I'm tired of their constant drama and exaggerations and everything. Orange man this, raspy-voiced poop-brain that, "we baaambed this" and "literally destroyed" that. And it's football FFS, not soccer.

Realistic to set up? Sure, easy. Realistic to use? Unlikely.

I get it, the US fucking sucks. But I didn't choose to be from here and I'm doing my best with what I've got. The fediverse has been one of the only somewhat sane spaces I can get away from the nonstop propaganda machine.

Block the American communities all you want, but many of us are here to escape the bullshit, not spread it. Sorry our discussion of our politics in communities dedicated to our politics bothers you I guess? You don't really seem to me to understand the point of the fediverse

Am American, my advice? Just use communities/instances that don't use English as their primary language. If you want to be extra safe avoid Spanish too.

I'm sorry that we're like this. I've been working my entire adult life to unlearn the lies and bullshit that the AmeriKKKan settler-colonial entity has hammered into our heads. I completely understand if you don't want to hear from AmeriKKKans, but I really want to listen to non-AmeriKKKan perspectives and signal-boost these perspectives into AmeriKKKan-dominated spaces.

Stupid idea.

I say this as someone who lives in a country where multiple random US sites (from work-related to gaming) do a country-wide IP block.

You can block amerigocentric instances and users (like me!) if you want, but people will still use vpns to say “soccer” on your America-free instances and I don’t think there’s anything to be done to prevent that.

And we were told cancel culture had peaked.

Sounds like you should just set up your own instance and IP block as you see fit.

Perhaps a country specific instance would make more sense. If you block all Americans, you might start noticing and getting bothered from another nation.

Well, I think there are a few... Indeed I know at least two italian instances, plus my private instance....

But most of activity is currently on USA instances like world, so...

One could ban every us-related community. Banning all american users won't work.

In theory it's a fine idea; in practice it just sounds messy.

Better to just follow region-specific communities like Europe (not sure if it's on .world or .ml). I think you can post there if you're American, but you shouldn't expect that most people there are, or that they will care about American stuff, and I wouldn't make a thread about American stuff, and a moderator would be well within rights to delete it. But the Internet is global and for everyone.