Several posts are saying this would be a good thing. Maybe, if implemented like the meme shows, but I worry ads in LLM chatbot output have the potential to be the most insidious and persuasive form of advertising we've ever seen. Chatbots are -- by their nature -- conversational and pushed in forms that are meant to eliminate any sort of thinking on the part of the user. And more and more, people are using them as their closest, most trusted confidants. Who's to say a (e.g.) political candidate won't pay to control the narrative of a chatbot, and have their propaganda ("ads") appear as a private conversation between an individual and their trusted "friend" or "partner"?

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 46 points 19 hours ago

Generally, I'm against advertising, but using it to poison AI output is something I can get behind.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 81 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

Teachers are using AI to grade essays. But some experts are raising ethical concerns

We pretend to study and they pretend to grade us.

[–] jonathan7luke@lemmy.zip 33 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

ZIZEK: that AI will be the death of learning & so on; to this I say NO! My student brings me their essay, which has been written by AI, & I plug it into my grading AI, & we are free! While the 'learning' happens, our superego satisfied, we are free now to learn whatever we want

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Can't not read that in his voice

[–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 7 points 19 hours ago

I read it three times perfecting his voice, then I read your comment.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Which I think just illustrates that take-home essays aren't a great way to do things now, if they ever were.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 22 points 19 hours ago

I mean, graded take home essays are a waste. It's like assigning weight training. Good for exercising, and we can talk about your form when you're done.

But as soon as you start stack ranking the results, the incentive to cheat outpaces the goal of practicing ingesting and outputing ideas.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 points 15 hours ago

95/100, this grade brought to you by Doctor Squatch.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago

Yeah... That's a violation of FERPA and is reportable offense that'll get ya fired or sued. Lol

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de -4 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

of course, most of school was bullshit long before AI, so what

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago

School is suppose to teach you how to critically think and learn. The material is mostly there to prove you have the ability to do it.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It kind of is sometimes, but at the same time it's hard to do education any other way.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's because it's not the school that is bullshit.

It's some of the stuff people do there. At the same time, some aren't. And we are incredibly bad at telling the difference, and worse than useless on doing that at scale.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

best part of my education happened outside of class, in TA and office hours (or prepping for them). same with best part of my college years.

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 37 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Wow! The enshitification of LLM comes quicker than what I would believe

[–] axh@lemmy.world 24 points 20 hours ago

Too soon, it might kill AI chatbots (fingers crossed)

[–] Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 14 points 18 hours ago

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Busted

[–] derry@midwest.social 21 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

We don't need no education

[–] elvith@feddit.org 10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

We don't need no thought control

[–] flameleaf@programming.dev 8 points 16 hours ago

No dark sarcasm in the classroom

[–] AgentRocket@feddit.org 6 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Yes, you do, because you've just used a double negative.

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

My brain automatically read that in Richard Ayoade's voice.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 29 minutes ago

Ayaya ayaya!

[–] derry@midwest.social 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm glad you raised that to my attention. Would you have a few minutes to allow me to introduce you to a most righteous and contentious rock and roll band, The Pink Floyd?

I think you might enjoy a quick listen to Dark Side of the Moon and then journey on to The Wall. All in all a nice little jaunt.

[–] AgentRocket@feddit.org 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I appreciate your effort to educate me on the fine music of Pink Floyd, but i have to let you know, i was already aware of them. Let me return the favour and tell you of the show i was quoting: The IT Crowd is a brilliant bit of British comedy depicting the escapades of the IT department in a stereotypical company.

here is a link to the bit i was quoting.

[–] derry@midwest.social 2 points 14 hours ago

Did you try turning it off and back on again?

//Jk. Love the IT Crowd. Appreciate the back and forth for some amusement in the trying times

[–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 18 hours ago

And you're a prescriptivist!

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

This essay is brought to you by Raid: Shadow Legends.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 15 hours ago

One of the few situations where advertising could be a good thing

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

At least that way we'll be able to tell when things are AI-generated.

[–] tazeycrazy@feddit.uk 4 points 19 hours ago

I was thinking this will be a good turing test. Going to be tricky for ad block to stop.