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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 31 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don’t want help with aging. I want to stay young.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Eat processed food and get older faster!

There is a lot of research on aging repairs, I wonder if I might benefit from it in time.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There is a lot of research on aging repairs, I wonder if I might benefit from it in time.

Depends. Is your income above $500,000?

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago

No, why?

Treatments are not supposed to be expensive.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

There is a lot of research on aging repairs, I wonder if I might benefit from it in time.

Most of that anti-aging stuff I've seen is close to moonshot type technology and even then with little gains. However, we've certainly found lots of things we like do to in our society that ages us faster that we can cut out. Sadly, some of the main contributors are expensive to avoid, such as stress. Just from my personal observation it doesn't mean living a longer life as a numeric number of years, but instead those decades at the end become much closer in lifestyle to the lifestyle of our youth with regards to mobility, cognitive function, and overall health.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago

Then you might have looked in the wrong place. There are only a handful things that make us age (like cells not dying correctly and becoming senescent, the hayflick limit, and some 4-5 other groups), they have startups working on them all, to varying degrees of course.

There are even the first ones out there, but it's a bit like when mobile phones were invented, they were big, clunky, expensive and didn't work well. Now you don't even want a perfectly working cell phone because smartphones are getting cheap too. I'm hoping the trend will be similar, and that's what smarter than me people work on.

What you said is right though, don't eat processed food, don't be sedentary, don't drink too much or smoke, and you'll probably live a healthy life for quite some time.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca -3 points 5 days ago

all these bullshit studies do is look at diet while ignoring physical activity.

Epidemiology is a joke "science" for flunkees.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We prepared, portioned, and provided all meals and snacks for the study. Both diets emphasized minimally processed ingredients

I was initially concerned the results could possibly explained simply by calorie restriction. However in the full paper they have a mechanism which does well to address this.

Participants were not instructed to intentionally restrict caloric intake; instead, they were allowed to request additional study foods when they needed, without any limits.

Full paper here

I would have liked to have seen if any participants actually did request more though indicating they understood the option, but I recognize the limits of the study for trying to control this one variable.

[–] Nomad@infosec.pub 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

As someone who recently had to restrict to less processed foods and no meat and dairy: comes automatically for a time as your body needs time to adjust to the humongous volume of good you need to hit the same calorie limits. Less dense and less energy rich and takes longer to process results in some weird always hungry and always eating behavior for a few weeks and some humongous toilet plugging logs xD

Normalizes after a few weeks.

[–] plantsmakemehappy@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Thank you for posting this. I'm on day 12 of a diet to control my reflux symptoms and I feel awful and run down. Was worried I'd never hit that 'increased energy' I had read about.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I’m on day 12 of a diet to control my reflux symptoms and I feel awful and run down.

I have a family trait of reflux too. I have been able to largely alleviate it not with diet restrictions, but timing of consumption of foods and specific triggers. I like chocolate, which is a very clear trigger. Not being able to eat chocolate again would be a huge challenge for me, but knowing I just can't eat chocolate within 5 hours or going to bed helps immensely.

Was worried I’d never hit that ‘increased energy’ I had read about.

I haven't heard of decreased energy as a consequence of reflux. Or does this mean an "increase energy" from an otherwise more healthy diet you're on which you're doing to address your reflux?

[–] plantsmakemehappy@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Specifically from the diet I'm trying, so far I've been feeling low energy and nausea. It's a month of more extreme restrictions to try and help alleviate some of the symptoms like sore throat and cough, with the goal then being that I can figure out triggers and how to move forward while keeping the reflux controlled.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm sorry to hear that. It sounds like yours is much farther along than mine (but I have older family that matches your current experience). Is the new diet at least addressing the reflux symptoms or even with the new diet is it still occurring?

[–] plantsmakemehappy@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago

I have mostly silent reflux, so it's really hard to tell. This adventure started when I had been coughing with a sore throat for about 4 months, started seeing doctors at that point. Those symptoms continue and I have a new diagnosis of barretts esophagus so it's important I tackle the reflux and limit the behavior that could further the progression of barretts.

[–] Nomad@infosec.pub 1 points 5 days ago

Do banana plant milk shakes they help with calories and energy

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Normalizes after a few weeks.

I'd have to go back to the paper, but I believe I read that they do two weeks of the restricted diet protocol, then return to their normal diet. So they may not be able to benefit from the many-weeks long acclimation.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Poor people don't live as long. New research.

The Research Brief is a short take on interesting academic work.

Which links you back to the same article.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I've seen what your talking about before in web articles, so I checked. Is this thier source?

https://www.clinicalnutritionjournal.com/article/S0261-5614(25)00282-1/fulltext

[–] ignirtoq@feddit.online 5 points 5 days ago

We prepared, portioned, and provided all meals and snacks for the study.

Great for the science, not great for the realistic recommendations. Sure, some people eat ultraprocessed foods because they are just easier, but many people eat ultraprocessed foods because they are unable to access healthier options. Either they are too expensive (either in monetary cost or the time commitment to prepare the food) or (I expect moreso the case for older people) they are physically unable to prepare it. If we're going to recommend older Americans eat less ultraprocessed foods, we need realistic options for them to switch to.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago

Wow, who knew ultra processed foods are bad? Great research! Done in... 1995 right? Right?

"I'm a researcher and I'm going to research something we all already know. I'm going to prove wheels are round."

[–] noumenon@lemmy.world -4 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 5 days ago

There was a time when common sense said the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, going around the earth. Even simple things must be proven. Before we can find out more about why this occurs, we need to be certain that it does occur.