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Back in my day we had proper distros!
Btw: I was just stupid, and a bit to determined to install arch. So i wasted an hour on my internet connection (3 commands). And another four to find archinstall... This was 2 years ago...
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I used arch btw
I used eos as my main distro before switching to kubuntu and then to cachyos. One of best arch Linux forks. It is just like arch Linux + archinstall but is actually better than it.
Linux users when you use Windows: π‘
Linux users when you use Linux: π‘
Just use Arch like a normal well adjusted person
Stimulate your Autism and use Gentoo it's quite fun.
Weirdly enough, I never tried Gentoo. What it will do to my autism that Arch doesn't do already?
Me when you use Windows: :|
Me when you use Linux: :DD
It's sad that there is a very vocal group of Linux users that will complain about every choice other Linux users make. But it's silly to be complaining about it, especially as that complaining keeps detracting people away from Linux. And I think there's lots of value in bringing people to Linux. In a time where Microsoft is turning a fairly useful OS into a platform whose only purpose is invasive telemetry and invasive marketing, Linux is a way to take back control of our computers. Linux gives you back more choice on what to do with your computer. And just because I don't personally agree with certain choices, that doesn't mean that everyone should be prohibited from making them, or that I get to scream with whoever makes those choices. Here's a final suggestion: be kind with one another, as there is already enough hatred in this world.
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EndeavourOS is my favorite of most everything so far, and I started back during the Slackware days.
Same!
I choose a distro based on the name and logo. If the distro doesn't feel cool anymore, I switch.
Thatβs why I use Hannah Montanna Linux
That'd be so cool if someone were doing that. Just upgrading all the way since back then... when was HML? Something like 2007?
I call that the IPA method
This is why I never used Ubuntu.
And Fedora? I can't look anyone in the eye and tell them thats my operating system.
UwUntu is the correct one, surely
I installed Artix yesterday.
Absent-mindedly.
Meant to install AntiX.
Didn't realise until done.
XD
A silly grep for "tix" (not "tiX") in iso dir, saw the various inits, + dyslexia + haste, went with it thinking I had the right ones to dd to usb. So absent minded all the artix logos in my face didn't phase me through booting and installing. XD
Doesn't really matter. Installed AntiX straight after. Hijacked with bedrocklinux and installing the other to another stratum too anyway. I just wanted antiX for hijack default init stratum from the start, for a more stable (slower-upgrading) base.
Fun that two distros offering init freedom are so similarly named. Just one letter and one capitalisation different. r > n & x > X.
Well. That was fun. LOL.
Can you choose your init in Arch or EndeavourOS yet?
You mean "can you remove systemd"? Short answer: yes.
Should you do it? Only if you're fucking insane.
Just use Artix if you care that much
You mean βcan you remove systemdβ? Short answer: yes.
? you can? I'd rather start without it, than try to remove it.
Should you do it? Only if youβre fucking insane.
Why do you say that?
Just use Artix if you care that much
Or Devuan (or any devuan respin), or CRUX, or Gentoo, or VoidLinux, or Slackware, or GuixSD, or Loc-OS, or Alpine, or Joborun, or Hyperbola, or Parabola, or Venom, or PCLinuxOS, or GoboLinux, or SulinOS, or KISS Linux, or Carbs Linux, or LigurOS, or Dragora, or GlaucusLinux, or NutyX, or AntiX, or MXLinux, or Slitaz, or Puppy (or any pup respins), or PuffOS, or TinyCore, or Slax, or Chimera, or NXOS, or Peppermint, or LFS, or CalculateLinux, or RedCore Linux, or Obarun, or BedrockLinux, 4MLinux, or Absolute Linux, or Austrumi Linux, or BharOS, or CalyxOS, or Damn Small Linux, or DivestOS, or Dyne:bolic, or e, or Knoppix, or Kwort Linux, or LibreCMC, or LightOS, or LineageOS, or Nanolinux, or Porteus, or Salix, or Source Mage, or VectorLinux, or Vine Linux, or Zenwalk, or Zeroshell, or...
... Or any of the BSDs, or SerenityOS, or any of the AROS distros, or the one Ironclad distro (Gloire), or any of the OpenSolaris distros, or ReactOS, or Redox, or Kolibrios, or SculptOS, or Plan9/9Front, or Haiku, or...
... Did I miss any? [Edit... oh, I missed dozens]
It's not like there's just one, nor even just an "insane" few, to avoid systemd. Contrary to the corporate encouraged misinfo smears going around.
Even if one is insistent users stay in the arch cult, there are like half a dozen options.
I prefer freedom of choice.
Long live init-freedom.
Defy group-think dogma.
[PS, I do like the play on "Just use Mint". ;)]
I say insane because Arch is very much not made to run without systemd, and you would need to make a lot of changes to make it work without it.
So, as you say, just choose a distro without systemd
I get that people like things to be easier, but honestly, Arch's installation process is so streamlined these days that I don't see that as the selling point. However, if it provides a better driver experience, then that's cool. Simply not something I need.
EOS provides some more QoL features, itβs not just the installation itself (a button to update mirrors, auto keyring update, some nice pre-installed things like yay, etc)
If you need an Arch installation ready to go out of the box, EOS is a solid choice.
Edit: not trying to convince you to jump to EOS, just providing a bit more context about the distro
Yeah, that's cool. For me, the beauty of Arch is how naked it is when I install it. It's like "least priveleges" but for my workstation. I only add the crap I want. No more, no less.
I cut my teeth on FreeBSD 2.2.1 way back in '97 or whenever the hell that came out. Suffice it to say, that OS was naked as hell. Arch feels like coming home to me in a strange way, even though BSD is still solid. Linux is a much better workstation that BSD these days.
edit: perhaps I'm something of a masochist. :)
I see Endeavour as Arch with sane defaults. They also use the Arch repos, if the distro dies I'm not really affected.
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I tried running Bazzite for a few months, but just kept running into one weird issue after another. Went to Endeavor and they all went away overnight.
Iβm technical enough that I can configure Arch from scratch, but simply canβt be bothered. I just need my computer to work. Every day.
I felt like when I was working with Arch, and Iβm sure itβs operator error, it was like maintaining a starship with a dozen systems that could individually go wrong and I was responsible for all of them. Endeavor was fully setup with no weirdness in less than 30 minutes.
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I do not get why people on distros like Endevour or Cachy say that they use arch. It makes me cringe everytime. Be proud of your distro, they are all good.
Endeavour is Arch. It uses the Arch repos.
If it isn't Arch, then those automated Windows 11 installers with pre-configurations used by enterprises aren't Windows. Of course they are.
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I've done full manual installs and archinstall installs of mainline arch and I would argue endevouros is arch. It's more than just "arch based" it's literally a basic arch install with calamaris. It updates from official arch repos and arch kernal ect.
While I only tell people I use endevouros I do not understand why anyone cares if an endevouros user says they use arch lol. What is the difference between that and something like archinstall besides slightly easier btrfs configs?
I'd consider CatchyOS to be in the arch based category but not EndevourOS
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Yeah, I use Endeavour and I would never say I use Arch. I've never installed Arch. That's like the whole thing about it.
I confess I have sometimes said I used Gentoo since 2007, when really, that was Sabayon, and not Gentoo until 2010.
This was indeed technically wrong, or at the very least, misleading. Merely a choice of expedient shorthand, to avoid my usual verbose precision.
Does anyone really care though?
It does get me wondering how many "I use arch btw" are not really, and boasting a nothing burger from even less. XD
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Meanwhile in a nearby living room: I use Nyarch btw!
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