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    [–] otacon239@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    I tried running Bazzite for a few months, but just kept running into one weird issue after another. Went to Endeavor and they all went away overnight.

    I’m technical enough that I can configure Arch from scratch, but simply can’t be bothered. I just need my computer to work. Every day.

    I felt like when I was working with Arch, and I’m sure it’s operator error, it was like maintaining a starship with a dozen systems that could individually go wrong and I was responsible for all of them. Endeavor was fully setup with no weirdness in less than 30 minutes.

    [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Had the opposite experience, tried Endevour first, must have done something wrong as it started running like ass/freezing up constantly requiring a full reboot to come back.

    Swapped to bazzite and didn't have that issue again, I did get to learn more about how to work with mutable distros too.

    Ultimately didn't matter much as that laptop died about a year later anyway, it won't turn on at all anymore, good run of like 10 years tho.

    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

    These odd freezes, especially when moving files at scale, is something I struggled with on all Arch-based distros I had installed: Arch itself, EndeavourOS, Manjaro.

    Either Arch doesn't like my hardware in some way, or it's just something Arch users struggle with.

    Any other distros worked just fine in that regard.

    [–] otacon239@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

    Someone could write a book…

    The Joys of Distro-Hopping

    [–] texture@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)
    [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    The post I'm replying to mentions their experience with Bazzite lol

    [–] texture@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

    sorry, i had just woken up

    [–] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

    Same experience with bazzite.I had a very strange issue with packages completly gone after using LACT to experiment and managing to freeze my os.

    TBH I realised immutable systems aren't for me and I am not a linux noob, so I immediately went back to Arch and never looked back.

    archinstall is amazing btw. Best installer by far IMHO. shit free, takes 30s to setup an arch system with great defaults. Nothing beats it for me.

    Edit: for me someone using "I use void btw" would make more sense.

    [–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    What does immutable mean? I've been using Linux for decades and never heard it until recently.

    [–] vaionko@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

    The root filesystem is read only, packages are installed on the user level through for example flakpak. And a lot of time system updates come as a whole new root filesystem, essentially making broken updates impossible.

    [–] dil@piefed.zip 1 points 1 day ago

    I had cachyos for 6 months no issues than the last 6 months it's been freezing constantly, was fine on an older kernel, but fans and performance mode didnt work, stuck on high or low (could swap on latest rc kernel, but itd freeze) Tried bazzite and so far no freezes (except when using usb c to display port but I had bsod on windows doing that in vr and I think thats just a laptop hardware problem)

    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Arch can be configured without archinstall in 20 minutes by a YouTube video even if you're a grandma with 0 technical skills.

    Let's all stop pretending that having it manually installed means anything and just use whatever does it for us. Like, well, Endeavour.

    [–] otacon239@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    It’s not the installation I fail on. It’s that 3-4 months after installation, my installation is so bespoke that I don’t even know how to make a forum post on it anymore.

    I did mention I can install it by hand, but I hardly gain any benefit by doing so other than clout. And I don’t give a hoot about clout.

    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

    That's one of my gripes with Arch, too. It takes too much manual interaction on an everyday basis, it's not a "set it and forget it" kind of system.

    To some, sometimes lesser, extent it also translates to its derivatives, be it Endeavour, Garuda, Manjaro or whatever strikes one's fancy.

    [–] LwL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    You... heavily overestimate a grandma with 0 technical skills.

    It can be installed in 20 minutes with a youtube video by a person with 0 technical knowledge that is comfortable using a computer and doesn't get scared seeing a terminal.

    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

    Fair enough. Honestly, fear is the main barrier

    If you can open a YouTube video, open a terminal and not scream in horror, you fill all the prerequisites.

    [–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

    Garuda is an Arch based non immutable distro with a similar gaming and performance focus to Bazzite. It's where I went when Bazzite felt off to me.

    For anyone thinking of a switch, it's worth a look.