If my political opponents are actually sexual predators and their speech is sexual harassment, I'm down with censoring them. That should be the least of their problems.
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this guy is out of his mind
There's this old adage, "never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity".
Tim Sweeney is very ignorant. However, he's also pretty malicious. His fedoraèd waffling should probably be taken exactly for what it is.
That's not even what gatekeeping means. Unless he's trying to stand up for the universal right to participate in the child porn fandom.
He wants to use AI in his products but then not be responsible for his products.
If there is one gate that definitely needs keeping, it is the kindergarten's gate. Don't let those creeps get away with it...
From making CSAM? Makes you wonder about this Sweeny guy.
For those who aren’t doing this yet, get in losers, we’re going 0.0.0.0.-ing.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2987082604
Did Covid-19 make everyone lose their minds? This isn't even about being cruel or egotistical. This is just a stupid thing to say. Has the world lost the concept of PR??? Genuinely defending 𝕏 in the year 2026... for Deepfake porn including of minors!!???? From the Fortnite company guy???
Did Covid-19 make everyone lose their minds?
Every day further convinces me we all died of COVID, and this is The Bad Place.
For some reason Epic studios just let Tim Sweeney say the most insane things. If I was a shareholder I'd want someone to take his phone off him.
Unironically this behaviour is just "pivoting to a run for office as a Republican" vibes nowadays.
Its no longer even 'weird behaviour' for a US CEO.
TIL Tim Sweeney doesn't know what gatekeeping is
Who else just did a search on the Epstein files for "Tim Sweeney"?
I didn't find anything on jmail, but there's still a lot that haven't been released, and a lot of stuff is still redacted.
Man I just ran into 3 site blockages trying to open this. Somebody REALLY doesn’t want this to be read.
What a surprise, Tim Sweeney is still a shit person
As if we didn't need more reasons to hate on epicgames.
I'm no fan of banning this or that particular platform (it's like trying to get rid of cheeseburgers by banning McDonalds; the burgers are still available from all the other burger chains and all the people who use the one will just switch to others) but this is a hilariously wrong way to get to the right answer.
They are all such vile people 💀
sigh I'll get my boycotting tools.
Not that there's an awful lot to boycott.
I'm trying to think what the last majorly popular title they released was that wasn't aimed at kids. Possibly gears of War about a decade ago.
At this point I don't think I'm boycotting them as much as forgetting they exist.
I saw someone suggesting mass downloading and uninstalling and downloading again all of the free games they've claimed over the years
That's a lot of interaction for a boycott, and I'm sure they would just ban your IP at some point. Of course there's always ways around that, but how much effort do you want to put into this boycott?
The biggest impact you could have on them would be for everyone to go over to Steam OS which I don't believe they support. It would be hilarious if they were forced to add support in order to stay relevant.
I don't think anything else would have much of an affect, because like I said their target demographic are kids, who don't really pay attention to this stuff.
Pedo and facist defendant Tim Sweeney. Burn his business down by disconnecting your, patronage, money, time, etc. Boards can find CEOs who are not supporters of Pedo and Facists
IMO commenters here discussing the definition of CSAM are missing the point. Definitions are working tools; it's fine to change them as you need. The real thing to talk about is the presence or absence of a victim.
Non-consensual porn victimises the person being depicted, because it violates the person's rights over their own body — including its image. Plus it's ripe material for harassment.
This is still true if the porn in question is machine-generated, and the sexual acts being depicted did not happen. Like the sort of thing Grok is able to generate. This is what Timothy Sweeney (as usual, completely detached from reality) is missing.
And it applies to children and adults. The only difference is that adults can still consent to have their image shared as porn; children cannot. As such, porn depicting children will be always non-consensual, thus always victimising the children in question.
Now, someone else mentioned Bart's dick appears in the Simpsons movie. The key difference is that Bart is not a child, it is not even a person to begin with, it is a fictional character. There's no victim.
EDIT: I'm going to abridge what I said above, in a way that even my dog would understand:
What Grok is doing is harmful, there are victims of that, regardless of some "ackshyually this is not CSAM lol lmao". And yet you guys keep babbling about definitions?
Everything else I said here was contextualising and detailing the above.
Is this clear now? Or will I get yet another lying piece of shit (like @Atomic@sh.itjust.works) going out of their way to misinterpret what I said?
(I don't even have a dog.)
What exactly have I lied about?
I've never once tried to even insinuate that what grok is doing ok. Nor that it should be. What I've said. Is that it doesn't even matter if there are an actual real person being victimized or not. It's still illegal. No matter how you look at it. It's illegal. Fictional or not.
Your example of Bart in the Simpsons movie is so far out of place I hardly know where to begin.
It's NOT because he's fictional. Because fictional depictions of naked children in sexually compromised situations IS illegal.
Though I am glad you don't have a dog. It would be real awkward for the dog to always be the smartest being in the house.
Supporting CSAM should be treated like making CSAM.
Down into the forgetting hole with them!
Nobody here is supporting CSAM. Learn to read, dammit.
He implicitly is.
EDIT: Wait, what is this about? Did I missphrase something?
Fuck! I misread you. Yes, you're right, Tim Sweeney is supporting CSAM.
Sorry for the misunderstanding, undeserved crankiness, and defensiveness; I thought you were claiming I was the one doing it. That was my bad. (In my own defence, someone already did it.)
Now, giving you a proper answer: yeah, Epic is better sent down the forgetting hole. And I hope Sweeney gets haunted by his own words for years and years to come.
They mistook your comment as disagreeing with their take on how there are real victims of Grok's porn and CSAM and saying that they themselves were supporting CSAM, rather than saying that you agree and were saying Sweeney is supporting CSAM.
Yeah. I’m as tired of the argument that pretty much anything goes as far as free speech goes as I am of the “everything is a slippery slope when we make laws to keep people from doing harmful shit.”
I mean what’s the required damage before people put a stop to inciteful speech and objectively harmful lies? Or making CSAM of kids using a platform like X? Germany had to kill a few million people before they decided that maybe displaying Nazi symbols and speech wasn’t a good idea. So we have a platform being used to make CSAM. What’s it going to take before someone says that this is a bad idea and shouldn’t be done? How many kids will commit suicide after being taunted and shamed for their images being used? How many is “enough”? There should be immediate action to end the means to use these tools to make porn, there’s plenty of porn available on the internet and making it from user-submitted images on a major public platform is a horrible idea, but too many make up all kinds of reasons why we can’t do that…economic, censorship, whatever.
Literally this meme again

It helps that Tim Sweeney seems to always be wrong about everything.
If you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by
This is almost as sus as the the specific preferred age range terminology for pedophiles that comes up now and again in the most uncomfortable of scenarios
The only “charitable” take I can give this is that he’s been fighting Apple and Google over store fees and the like and that he feels like if he says that Apple/Google can do this then they should be able to restrict EGS as well.
I don’t know why CSAM AI material is the hill you’d make this point with though.