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[–] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 301 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

90 days for trying to overthrown the government and verbally attacking the judge. What a fucking joke of a sentence.

[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 239 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hey it's not like he did something insanely criminal, like owning a negligible amount of cannabis to enjoy in the privacy of his own home.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 140 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

How about trying to vote with a provisional ballot after being told it's okay to vote and then being thrown in jail because it wasn't okay to vote.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 63 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You forgot to add that she did all of that while being black. If she had had the good sense to be white, she probably wouldn't have spent 5 years in jail.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Meanwhile Republicans who admitted to intentional vote fraud by voting in the name of others got almost nothing

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago

He could have tweeted about defending America from January 6th rioters as a military veteran but also an anarchist. That'll get you some years. Nearly 4 in fact.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago

30 days time served too. So it's just 2 more months.

[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 103 points 11 months ago (13 children)

insulted a prosecutor and verbally attacked the judge who punished him.

Sounds like a certain ex-president who deserves to have his eventual sentence quadrupled.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Have we figured out how to execute someone multiple times?

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I could do that, but are you sure you wanna go there? That's some Mengele type of evil. Let's maybe keep Pandoras box closed for now.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 2 points 11 months ago

I'm ok with it, let's do it

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[–] tvbusy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 73 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This guy thinks he can do exactly what Trump does and get away with it like Trump seems to always do. The root cause must be fixed.

[–] WolfhoundRO@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Meaning Trump and his shills getting a sentence and even quadrupled? Hell, I'm all for it

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Insulted a prosecutor and verbally attacked the judge who punished him.

The little guy getting an actual sentence out of it while cowardly judges refuse to toss trump in jail for worse.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

for worse

I'd say they're both guilty of the exact same thing, they're just two halves of the same crime.

Without mooks like this, trump was essentially just a loud angry nuisance, at least as far as the election goes. He could rant about how much the election was stolen until his face went from orange to blue, but at the end of the day he couldn't have done anything about it.

And without people like trump to rile them up, most of these idiots probably would have just stayed home.

You need both halves of it for something like 1/6 to have taken place.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

These judges are playing a long game that people like us are too ignorant to see.

Example; The judge's ruling in Colorado that kept him on the ballot? Found him factually guilty of insurrection.

No matter the verdict, this was going up the legal food chain. The next court has no choice but to accept that he's an insurrectionist. Feel me? That is now an established fact that an appellate court cannot disregard or change.

Fucking brilliant legal maneuvering.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

So what? Everyone has known that Trump took part in an insurrection for years and it hasn't made a bit of difference. Unless you have a specific case in mind where that legal distinction is likely to make a difference then you're just debating the semantics of "nothing happened to him".

We already know history will not look favorably on Trump. Solidifying the words future historians will use to describe him doesn't make his election to a second term any less likely.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Actually no. The appellate hearings don't have to accept the lower court's findings and can ignore the opinion entirely to reach their own conclusions. Leaving him on the ballot creates a potential constitutional crisis. Consider the possibility that it doesn't reach the Supreme Court until Trump has been elected.

The best outcome is Trump is not the GOP nominee. Parties can set their own rules for primaries, but once he's on the ticket, you're talking about the courts disenfranchising a bunch of morons. And while we may all prefer that morons don't vote, the fact is that the legal system that protects their right to vote also protects everyone else's right to vote.

This was a justice splitting the baby to try to keep both sides from attacking politically and physically.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What the fuck is this? I'm not one for cruel and unusual punishment but these people will be able to make another insurrection by the time Trump loses in 2024 with these sentences. What the fuck? The point is to deter insurrectionists, these light ass sentences won't do shit.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Loads of the big guys are in for years. Sentences depend on what they did, I imagine this guy didn't do much

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Just being there should earn you 10. What would these people who "didn't do much" have done if their plot was a success? No one there was benign.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Hey I'm not Israel, I exclude the press by default. Someone needs to document this for high school tests in 100 years, thats the only place this knowledge seems to be used anyway.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you were around protesting and not breaking any laws you shouldn't even go to jail. It's not be back or white

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

They were insurrectionists, they werent there doing nothing. As soon as they stepped foot inside the capital it should have earned them at least enough of a sentence to miss the next 2 elections. These people were here to usurp our nation and ya'll were like "Nah some were just there bein' chill". Thats not how that works.

[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

I'm an insurrectionist. those people were patriots. please don't lump me in with them.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago

Beer hall putsch

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Haha. Truly hilarious and awesome to see.

[–] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I demand to have the convict extradited to Singapore, where they will add twenty lashes of the cane to the sentence.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I remember when the right wing was positively excited about the way Singapore does this for even minor infractions. The same bunch were popping chubbies over that guy in Vegas threatening to cut off the thumbs of people caught doing graffiti.

Now the very same bunch cry over how these "peaceful protesters" are being persecuted for "touring the Capitol", etc...

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He says he’s a sovereen citizen

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

Cool. Strip him of his passport and drop him off in an airport in Madagascar. Now he's a sovereign citizen of that airport.