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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/7281868

You DON'T hate ameriKKKa or iSSrael ENOUGH.

amerikkka isntrael qin-shi-huangdi-fireball

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

One of the several issues western shitlibs tend to suffer from is that they expect a perfect Netflix style resistance™. They don't understand that resistance is an imperfect process done by flawed individuals who sometimes do bad. Yet through it all even a deeply flawed resistance is better than a genocidal occupation.

So yes unironically I do support Hamas and I support every resistance group to imperialism regardless of how flawed they are because morality means nothing to the dead.

[–] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

One of the several issues western shitlibs tend to suffer from is that they expect a perfect Netflix style resistance™. They don’t understand that resistance is an imperfect process done by flawed individuals who sometimes do bad. Yet through it all even a deeply flawed resistance is better than a genocidal occupation.

THANK YOU, you see it all over this very thread. It's unbelievable (well, sadly believable, but it shouldn't be) at this point in time that people who think of themselves as "leftists" would still behave this way.

So yes unironically I do support Hamas and I support every resistance group to imperialism regardless of how flawed they are because morality means nothing to the dead.

It's literally just this simple and IMO all the pearl clutching people do to avoid saying this comes from a place of western chauvinism.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago

It's literally just this simple and IMO all the pearl clutching people do to avoid saying this comes from a place of western chauvinism.

This especially pisses me off, this western centric idea that specifically the western definition of how things should be done (which the west literally never follows). The western shitlib will say "terrorism is always bad" yet will support terrorism by the US. They will say "dictatorship are evil" yet will support the dictatorship of capital.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I dislike the "but they are religious extremists" argument.

How the fuck is a country supposed to progress if they are being actively colonized and exploited?

Also still doesn't justify killing civilians on the other side of the planet.

Hamas ≠ Palestine but they are doing more to stop Palestinian deaths than most organizations.

[–] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Thank you, it baffles me how many people who think of themselves as "leftists" fail to understand these things.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think this in particular does fit the comm, since it plays with the fucking over used braindead "Do you condemn Khamas?!!1!1!!1!"

[–] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago

07 Also they are the main force in the united front of the Resistance against the occupation, which includes Palestinian communists (such as the PFLP whose logo is in the meme as well).

[–] Pwalabwa@quokk.au 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can't say I do. But until israel has become wasrael, they'll have my support.

[–] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

But until israel has become wasrael, they’ll have my support.

Well... it sounds like you do commend Hamas for their resistance to the genocidal colonial occupation (complimentary, I mean this as a good thing, of course).

[–] Pwalabwa@quokk.au 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It might be my ND brain taking "commend" too literally, but I'd rather frame my support as acknowledging Hamas as a proper resistance movement, and doing my best to contextualize their actions when talking about them. All the shit flinging for whatever ideological divergence is better left for later.

[–] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I see where you're coming from. I personally understand "commend" in this case to mean "acknowledge their resistance and give them credit for it" (which I see you do), but I understand what you're saying, especially when sometimes people will see you agree with "commend" and then gladly use whatever definition they like and put it in your mouth.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

An open dialogue discussing the nuances of each other's interpretations to come to a common ground? On my political memes sub?

What heresy is this?

[–] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't worry, there's more of what you would expect further down the thread. yea

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 days ago

Yea, I see that thread too.

[–] statelesz@slrpnk.net -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't see what's so funny about a radical Islamist terrorist organization?

[–] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If that's your impression of what Hamas is, you are either severely misinformed or you harbor racial/religious bias. I'm assuming it's the former, so I will let you know that that is not an accurate description of Hamas. If you are interested in finding out more about them, you should read their updated charter from 2017.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They pursue a deliberate strategy of killing and kidnapping civilians. They brutalize and repress any autonomous political movements within Gaza. Violent repression of queer or otherwise nonconforming Gazans is commonplace. And their disastrous political and military strategy was a large contributor to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Gazans over the past several years.

I usually try not to criticize them because such criticisms are being used to justify genocide but I don't know how else to respond to a ridiculous post like this.

[–] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Have you ever heard the term "critical support"? Resistance doesn't need to be perfect to be valid. Read "Perfect Victims" by Mohammed El-Kurd.

They pursue a deliberate strategy of killing and kidnapping civilians.

They "kidnap" civilians (among also many military members) in an attempt to do prisoner exchanges in response to a much more large-scale strategy of the same employed by "Israel". Unlike "Israel" they are working with few resources and very little intelligence data, so it's not surprising their actions aren't always surgically precise (whereas "Israel", of course, constantly target civilians deliberately).

And their disastrous political and military strategy was a large contributor to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Gazans over the past several years.

Literally victim blaming, lol. You're not only assuming that they could have predicted the exact course of events (including the scale of their success in Al-Aqsa flood and the scale of the "Israeli" response), but softly absolving the actual perpetrators of much of the blame. There is one and only one party responsible for this and for all other violence within Palestine since 1948. That's what colonialism is.

I usually try not to criticize them because such criticisms are being used to justify genocide

Yeah, they are.

[–] statelesz@slrpnk.net -4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Resistance doesn’t need to be perfect to be valid.

Bro, they are misogynistic, homophobic, antisemitic, radical Islamist, fundamentalist terrorists. They are the exact opposite of every value leftist stand for.

[–] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Bro, they are misogynistic, homophobic, antisemitic, radical Islamist, fundamentalist terrorists. They are the exact opposite of every value leftist stand for.

made-it-the-fuck-up "My source is that I made it the fuck up."

You also don't seem to understand the concepts of colonialism and resistance to colonialism. Opposing colonialism is a value every leftist should stand for.