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[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago

Someone has to pay the billionare's bills

[–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 125 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Here’s the crux of the article for you.

In just two years, starting in 2022, residential electricity prices rose by 10%, while commercial prices increased by only 3%, and industrial electricity prices fell by 2%.

[–] morto@piefed.social 64 points 1 week ago

Even if you don't like or use ai, you're forced to pay for it

[–] aaa@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But why is it this way? Why wouldn’t they want to charge both groups more for a higher profit margin?

[–] Nikelui@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Wouldn't want to upset corporate overlords.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Partly because doing so risks that they might decide to invest in their own production instead, and therefore not buy any electricity from you at all which would result in loss of demand, and a reduction in overall electricity cost.
Like how rising a bus ticket fare by 10% means you will lose some customers because they decide to walk instead, so your profit increase will be lower than that 10%. Raise it too much, and almost everyone walks, and you sell no tickets.

And it's a lot harder to build your own solar or wind farm if you are a person living in an apartment building.

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[–] unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's easier to screw over consumers than businesses.

Busunesses like to complain. They have long-term contracts. They have a lot of purchase power. They're more likely tp swotch to a competitor. When they threaten, they're more likely to go through with the threats since they have both money to burn and employees to blackmail with pay cuts.

Among other things.

There's a lot of consumers, so those that do jump ship usually don't cause a big dent in profits when they do. Consumers are also less likely to jump ship in the furst place since they have only their extended family and their family lawyer to look out for them (if). They usually have "bigger" problems than the electricity bill: car payments, mortgages, school bills, you name it.

Again, among other things.

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[–] Bookakke@lemmy.world 82 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The working class get the 'get fucked' tax on top of the costs. Companies get cheap power to make more money.

I'd like to see this graph with the EU power costs. I pay AVG € 0,27 per kWh now. Used to be € 0,20 before the attack on Ukraine began. That's a 35% increase.

[–] elbiter@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's what the maga working class voted for. That, and cruel deportations.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

You think fucking over the working class is MAGA specific? Fucking us over is 100% bipartisan.

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[–] msage@programming.dev 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

What? I pay around ninety cents! What is this shit.

My electric bill last month would have been $1,700 at that rate. We would just have to freeze to death.

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[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The AI data centers and crypto miners should be paying much higher rates than everyone else.

[–] kalkulat@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's not how capitalism works.

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Privatize the profits, socialize the costs

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[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 38 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Here in Germany we have balcony solar panels. They are just plugged into a socket - no electrical installation needed - and pay off quickly.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 6 points 1 week ago (6 children)

How does the outlet work putting electricty back into it? You sure it's not a special outlet?

[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No. It is just wires that transport energy. Old power meters will even run backwards.

For safety, these panels have some electronics that switch them off when it is not plugged in, or during power outages.

[–] SpaceMan9000@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Depends on the country iirc. But most European countries allow you to discharge 800 watt unless you install it on a separate breaker. Regular socket

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 9 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I was surprised when I read about it too, but it's true, they quite literally just plug them right into the normal plugs.

It works because there's a certain tolerance on the German breakers that allow for power to reverse. The balcony panels take advantage of this. However this also limits the possible output to whatever the tolerance is, otherwise it would overload and shut off or worse.

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[–] razzazzika@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I have something like that I bought here in the US but the power generated won't power the whole home. It does charge my emergency battery though for when the power is out.

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[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Huh that's neat, I didn't know they just plugged into a socket. From what I know balancing the voltage and frequency of an electric grid is extremely delicate business, but I guess it's fine since it's so much electrically smaller than the main generators?

Also stuffing an inverter in random small electronics is probably so much easier than it used to be not that long ago.

What about batteries? Could you plug one of those big, AC camping "powerbanks" in between the solar and the mains? So that devices downstream are able to run directly off solar energy without going "into" and "out of" the grid?

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[–] Lucelu2@lemmy.zip 32 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yes, I am Fucking Pissed at my energy bills for the last 6 months. Like WTH. It is like $500 a month vs what was $300 max. I told my husband... it is time to start investing in solar generators. We are getting screwed for some stupid tech boy.

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I would love if this creates some kind of decentralized energy network. You know how you can sell your energy back to the grid when you have solar surplus? We should have the option of choosing the rate too. If they don’t want to pay our prices, they don’t need our electricity,

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

come on Muricans, stop complaining and get a third job to pay for the slop machine until the bubble burst and the you have to pay for the bailout

stop complaining, remember "you are not there yet"

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This shit is a failure of local and state governments, and the people who elect them. Now that AI costs are hitting citizen pocket books, many municipalities are fighting back.

"All politics is local."

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In particular, its a failure of state utilities commissions, which have power over electric pricing.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Don't know about your jurisdiction, but we vote those people in and out around here. Well...

We used to have a quasi-private/public power company. County commissioners voted us out of that. (Still our fault.) We do still have such a water setup. For now.

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

2024 and 2025 not included in their data.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How to pin someone else's comment?

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[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

My city still owns the utilities and the council doubles as the utility board. They've been trying to privatize it, but it's very contentious. Rightly so.

[–] kalkulat@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I suspect that it's always been the case that bigger customers are able to negotiate better prices. 1 car a year vs 1000 cars a year? 200 pounds of bread a year vs. 200 tons of bread?

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Big customers lock in deals for a fixed price of Y for X years.

Smaller customers can also get similar deals but retail customers (normal people) rarely can lock prices for more than 1 year. Most pay spot prices.

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[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Civilian bills increase while corporate discounts abound? Ya'll need to fuck someone up with the 2A.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The idiots are convinced they'll "be one of them someday"

Cue the "Fry, you arent rich!" Scene. Its very very real.

I have a friend that literally blames all problems in America on "The Poors" (his words) and when I try to tell him he IS the poors and is nowhere near rich, he doesn't listen. Doesn't believe workers should own the means of production because "when he owns HIS business, he wants to keep his money HE earned"

Brainwashed idiocy.

He rents, has a 20 year old car, is a bartender, and shops at Walmart exclusively. Also loves Grok.

America is doomed.

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[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

God don’t I know it. Looking at 500 dollar a month electric bills and I’m possibly disconnecting my heat pump.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Where are you? That's what I pay a year, granted I live in a shoebox.

[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Under the boot of Georgia power.

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[–] dmtalon@infosec.pub 8 points 1 week ago

Indiana price increase in 2025 ~20% (I believe the new rates went into effect in November, and this does not include a base increase for having your house connected to the grid. I believe it was $10/mo increase making that % even larger.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

The lowest rate I can find here in Texas was triple what I was paying last year.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

just sayin’ this is still so incredibly cheap… 8c/kwh… australian electricity prices are 24-43c/kwh (obv usd vs aud but the aussie $ isn’t that weak)

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago

ok damnit, how many more servers do i need to install.....

[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's almost that time of the year when NY electric rates get hiked up and then get "frozen" to avoid further rate hikes while you conveniently get locked into that higher rate.

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