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[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 253 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Yep. Intel sat on their asses for a decade pushing quad cores one has to pay extra to even overclock.

Then AMD implements chiplets, comes out with affordable 6, 8, 12, and 16 core desktop processors with unlocked multipliers, hyperthreading built into almost every model, and strong performance. All of this while also not sucking down power like Intel's chips still do.

Intel cached in their lead by not investing in themselves and instead pushing the same tired crap year after year onto consumers.

[–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 112 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Don't forget the awfully fast socket changes

[–] nokama@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago (3 children)

And all of the failures that plagued the 13 and 14 gens. That was the main reason I switched to AMD. My 13th gen CPU was borked and had to be kept underclocked.

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[–] Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Even within the same socket family, looking at you lga1151, can you run into compatibility problems.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I think AMD also did a smart thing by branding their sockets. AM4, AM5, what do you think is going to be next? I bet it's AM6. What came after the Intel LGA1151? It wasn't LGA1152.

[–] Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yea, for the customer it really doesn’t matter how many pins a certain socket has, only is it compatible or not.

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[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

As a person that generally buys either mid-tier stuff or the flagship products from a couple years ago, it got pretty fucking ridiculous to have to figure out which socket made sense for any given intel chip. The apparently arbitrary naming convention didn't help.

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[–] kieron115@startrek.website 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I just read the other day that at least one motheboard manufacturer is bringing back AM4 since DDR4 is getting cheaper than DDR5, even with the "this isn't even manufactured anymore" price markup. That's only even possible because of how much long-term support AMD gave that socket.

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They really segmented that market in the worst possible way, 2 cores and 4 cores only, possibility to use vms or overclock, and so on. Add windoze eating up every +5%/year.

Remember buying the 2600(maybe X) and it was soo fast.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The 2600k was exceptionally good and was relevant well past the normal upgrade timeframes.

Really it only got left behind because of its 4C/8T limit as everything started supporting lots of threads instead of just a couple, and just being a 2nd Generation i7.

[–] guynamedzero@piefed.zeromedia.vip 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Coincidentally, that’s the exact cpu I use in my server! And it runs pretty damn well.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At this point the only "issue" with it is power usage versus processing capability. Newer chips can do the same with less power.

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[–] wccrawford@discuss.online 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

All of the exploits against Intel processors didn't help either. Not only is it a bad look, but the fixes reduced the speed of the those processors, making them quite a bit worse deal for the money after all.

[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Meltdown and Spectre? Those also applied to AMD CPUs as well, just to a lesser degree (or rather, they had their own flavor of similar vulnerabilities). I think they even recently found a similar one for ARM chips...

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Only one affected AMD, forget which. But Intel knew about the vulnerabilities, but chose not to fix the hardware ahead of their release.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Even the 6-core Phenom IIs from 2010 were great value.

But to be fair, Sandy Bridge ended up aging a lot better than those Phenom IIs or Bulldozer/Piledriver.

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[–] voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 126 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Worse product and worse consumer practices (changing sockets every 2 generations) made it an easy choice to go with AMD.

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

DDR4 compatibility held on for a while though after AM5 was full DDR5.

The only real issue they had which has led to the current dire straits is the 13th/14th gen gradual failures from power/heat which they initially tried to claim didn't exist. If that didn't happen AMD would still have next to no market share.

You still find people swearing up and down that intel is the only way to go, even despite the true stagnation of progress on the processor side for a long, long time. A couple of cherry picked benchmarks where they lead by a miniscule amount is all they care about, scheduling / parking issues be damned.

[–] msage@programming.dev 23 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Oh hell naw, the issues with Intel came up much sooner.

Ever since Ryzen came out, Intel just stagnated.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 72 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I've been buying AMD since the K6-2, because AMD almost always had the better price/performance ratio (as opposed to outright top performance) and, almost as importantly, because I liked supporting the underdog.

That means it was folks like me who helped keep AMD in business long enough to catch up with and then pass Intel. You're welcome.

It also means I recently bought my first Intel product in decades, an Arc GPU. Weird that it's the underdog now, LOL.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

AMD almost always had the better price/performance

Except anything Bulldozer-derived, heh. Those were more expensive and less performant than the Phenom II CPUs and Llano APUs.

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[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I've been buying since the the Phenom II days with the X3 720. One could easily unlock their 4th core for an easy performance boost. Most of the time it'd work without a hassle.

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[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 58 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Intel until they realized that other companies made CPUs, too

[–] Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They also bring a "dying transitor problem we don't feel like fixing" to the party, too

[–] burrito@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 month ago (3 children)

And a constantly changing socket so you have to get a new motherboard every time.

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[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 46 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I remember, it was a huge issue for programs. Developers were just not supporting other chipsets because Intel was faster than the competition and mostly cheaper. Then they got more expensive, did some shitty business to MINIX and stayed the same speed wise.

So now we see what actual competition does.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

I do want them to stay alive and sort themselves out though. Otherwise in a few years it will be AMD who will start outputting overpriced crap and this time there will be no alternative on the market.

They're already not interested in seriously putting competitive pressure on NVidia's historically high GPU prices.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 18 points 1 month ago

I'm personally hoping more 3rd parties start making affordable RISC V. But yeah I agree, having Intel stick aroundbwould be good for people as you said.

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[–] ViperActual@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I switched to AMD because of Intel's chip stability issues. No problems since

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

When I updated my wife's computer for Windows 11 I went AMD for that reason as well. They released 2 generations in a row with now well-documented hardware bugs that slowly kill the processors. 13th and 14th gen CPUs simply will have zero resale value if they last long enough to hit the second hand market. I briefly worked at an MSP at the beginning of last year and the amount of gaming computers that came in via noncommercial walk-in customers for stability issues that ultimately turned out to be the Intel CPU bugs was incredible

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 month ago (3 children)

So the editor asked AI to come up with an image for the title "Gamers desert Intel in droves" and so we get a half-baked pic of a CPU in the desert.

Am I close?

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[–] BootLoop@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Pretty wild to see. Glad to see it though. Hope to see the same thing happen with GPUs against Nvidia as well.

It's been trending the opposite for a while. Intel has mostly stolen AMD's market share. And AMD has largely gone "me too!" to Nvidia raking customers over the coal.

[–] eli@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I know we shouldn't have brand loyalty, but after the near decade of quad core only CPUs from Intel, I can't help but feel absolute hate towards them as a company.

I had a 3770k until AMD released their Ryzen 1000 series and I immediately jumped over, and within the next generation Intel started releasing 8 core desktop cpus with zero issues.

I haven't bought anything Intel since my 3770k and I don't think I ever will going forward.

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The 3770k was legendary. I used it for so long. I upgraded to a 7600k almost a decade ago and now just ordered my first AMD chip (Ryzen 9700X). The Intel chips were solid, did so long with them, I hope this AMD system will last as long.

[–] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Yep, I kept the 3770k until I bought a 7800x3d. It lasted that long, and I gave my son the 3770k system and it was still overkill to play the games he wanted. Rocket League, Minecraft, fortnite etc...

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[–] somethingold@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Just upgraded from an i7-6600k to an RX 7800x3D. Obviously a big upgrade no matter if I went AMD or Intel but I'm loving this new CPU. I had an AMD Athlon XP in the early 2000's that was excellent so I've always had a positive feeling towards AMD.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

AMD has had a history of some pretty stellar chips, imo. The fx series just absolutelty sucked and tarnished their reputation for a long time. My Phenom II x6, though? Whew that thing kicked ass.

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[–] Sineljora@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 month ago

The United States government owns 10% of Intel now.

[–] randombullet@programming.dev 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wish AMD has better pcie pass through for the iGPU than Intel. My jellyfin is on Intel because I have hardware encoding support.

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[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago

So happy I chose to go with AM4 board years ago. Was able to go from Zen+ CPU to X3D CPU.

I remember people said back then people usually don't upgrade their CPU, so its not that much a selling point. But, people didn't upgrade because they couldn't due to constant socket changes on the Intel side.

My fps numbers were very happy after the CPU upgrade, and I didn't have to get a new board and new set of ram.

[–] commander@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I bought into AM5 first year with Zen 4. I'm pretty confident Zen 7 will be AM5. There's got to be little chance for DDR6 to be priced well by the end of the decade. Confident that I'll be on AM5 for 10+ years but way better than the Intel desktop I had for 10 years because I will actually have a great update path for my motherboard. AM4 is still relevant. That's getting to almost 10 years now. It'll still be a great platform for years to come. Really if you bought early in the life of first gen chips on the socket for AM4/AM5, you're looking at a 15 year platform. Amazing

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I have to lower my 12th Gen cpu multiplier to stop constant crashing when playing UE games, because everything is overlooked at the factory so they could keep up with AMD performance. Fuck Intel.

[–] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 month ago

Goodbye Intel, goodbye Microsoft, follow steamOS compatibility, to see what the in demand hardware will be.

[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 weeks ago

Intel and their last couple of processor generations were a failure. AMD, on the other hand, been consistent. Look at all these tiny AMD APUs that can run C2077 on a 35W computer that fits in the palm of a hand? Valve is about to drop a nuclear bomb on nvidia, intel and microslop with Gabecube.

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