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[–] KokusnussRitter@discuss.tchncs.de 100 points 5 days ago (3 children)

If she can lift a whole ass sword at that age, fuck it, she earned it.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 33 points 5 days ago (3 children)

They only weigh a couple pounds.

[–] Dhs92@piefed.social 47 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Do you know how weak little kids are? Most can barely lift a gallon of milk or juice

[–] EffortlessEffluvium@lemmy.zip 57 points 5 days ago

They can lift it long enough and high enough to create maximum spillage

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Depending on the sword, a gallon of milk is between three and six times the weight of the sword.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 29 points 5 days ago (2 children)

(not disagreeing with anyone, simply making observations from experience)

A German zweihander sword weighs around 8lbs, a gallon of milk is around 7. A typical hand and a half sword around 4, and a rapier can be as light as 2lbs easily.

The issue isn't really the weight though in my opinion, it's where the weight is distributed.

A gallon of milk is concentrated in a pretty small package that you can hold close to your own center of gravity.

A sword is long and it's weight, by design, is usually not close to the hilt of the blade. I'm not 100% sure on historic examples, but I try to keep the weight centered around 1/3 up the length of the blade on ones I make.

Practical upshot is that a lighter sword will flop around and stab people easier than a gallon of milk is dropped due to weight.

If you want a child to be accidentally dangerous, give them a sword. If you want them to be dangerous on purpose, give them a fixed blade knife under 7in.

[–] Dupelet@piefed.social 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Either way, that will be an important lesson

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[–] LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 5 days ago

Little kids are built different in Ankh-Morpork

A gallon of milk is over 7lb

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Unless they are ceremonial.

Giant hungarian longswords, one of them is like two times size of a person_

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[–] Pazintach@piefed.social 3 points 4 days ago

I have several swords. Some are light and nimble, at least for an adult, like my Messers are all around 800g, 90cm-ish in length, with point of balance at around 11-13cm. I think a child should have no problem wielding them if they do it with care. Then there is a 170cm Zweihänder, weighted about 3kg, PoB at 11cm. I have no doubt a child would be able to lift it, but to use it, it would be very hard. If she can use that adult-size-looking-sword in the picture then she definitely earned it. ;)

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 59 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Fun fact: this comic introduced me to Pratchett! His following quote on Elves is why I tend to find them lacking in most TTRPGs

"Elves are wonderful. They provoke wonder.

Elves are marvellous. They cause marvels.

Elves are fantastic. They create fantasies.

Elves are glamorous. They project glamour.

Elves are enchanting. They weave enchantment.

Elves are terrific. They beget terror.

The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes look for them behind words that have changed their meaning.

No one ever said elves are nice.

Elves are bad."

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

Me too! At 52 I had heard about Discworld forever and this comic finally got me to read Hogfather. Read the whole series twice, thrice soon.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I'm a little confused what this means, is it saying the fact that the positive attributes associated with elves is a twisting of the actual terrible qualities and that's why no one's ever called elves nice?

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Discworld elves are basically fae, not Tolkien style elves.

This quote makes much more sense if you apply it to the glamoured up bastards who steal babies and enslave you if you give them your name.

They're also interdimensional parasites, which would also be an appropriate description for fae.

(For context, they appear in the book Lords and Ladies — third or fourth in the Witches series, depending on whether you include Equal Rites —, which is heavily inspired by Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream.)

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Honestly Terry Pratchett just went back to the roots with his elves, elves and fae are basically a collection of minor spirits to gods in their own right on a mythological level they also run the mortality spectrum from the being downright nice like the green knight/green man to actively hostile to all humans. Similarly dwarves were seen as mountain gods/spirits, frankly pre-christian Europe and even post Christian Europe was so steeped in animism which is why you get so many things under such weirdly broad umbrellas.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 8 points 4 days ago

All these supernatural things had varying beliefs attached to them in different times and places... So there's really a lot of choice as to what to attribute them in fiction.

Norse dwarves weren't necessarily small, elves sometimes were, both were often magical in some way - the words used were interchangeable in some ways.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] scratchee@feddit.uk 18 points 4 days ago

Elves are constantly twisting the narrative about themselves, despite all the stories of how awful they are, people struggle to remember them that way. Grandma always said elves were… terrific.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 72 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I do worry that the thing people take away from this is "Death is a role model for not coddling children" rather than "Death, due to his odd perspective on mortality, would make a terrible parent".

[–] Dupelet@piefed.social 28 points 5 days ago

That will be an important lesson

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[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 36 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I remember jungle gyms. They taught a lot of lessons on how to discover personal limits and how to safely exceed them.

The loss of jungle gyms from our playgrounds are - I feel, as just one attribute of many, - directly contributing to our emerging young adults lacking the self-confidence and risk-evaluation skills they require to succeed.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Our 70s playground was fabricated by medieval iron mongers. But we had nice, chunky rocks to break our fall!

We've removed all risk from our children's lives, and then we're dumbfounded that they're scared about stupid shit. Got called "a fucking idiot" on reddit for saying I often skinny dipped in the local creek, and the crowd agreed. Dangerous behavior indeed!

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

And now that many of these young adults are parents themselves, they are bubble-wrapping the next generation.

Meanwhile, those of us who still remember what it was like to be “free-range” as a child are absolutely confused AF when other parents are arrested and charged with child endangerment for letting their kid walk two kilometres by themselves to the store.

Like, in what brain-dead reality is this a crime??

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

kind of depends on the creek. The one from my home town was full of broken bottles.

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 4 days ago

About 2 or 3 times a year I have a little breakdown over just how unfair Sir Pratchett's death really was. GNU Terry

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I learned to use and how to safely handle knives in the boy scouts at, like... 9? Maybe earlier? Less likely to hurt themselves with training and supervision.

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[–] Xenny@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago

I remember my first pocket knife. I cut myself. It was an important lesson. I no longer cut towards myself 😅

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago

It might be better to start her off with a Lancrastian Army Knife instead.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What if she cuts someone else?

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 60 points 5 days ago (1 children)

that will also be an important lesson... stay away from child with a sword

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (5 children)

What if the child can outrun you?

[–] iceonfire1@lemmy.world 44 points 5 days ago

Then maybe you should have thought twice before leaving them so much climate change

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

Well, you didn't leave the house without your sword again, did you?

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[–] JuliaSuraez@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Pratchett nails it: tools aren’t ‘safe’—using them well is. Teach respect + basics (supervision, safety rules, practice) and the lesson sticks without the scars.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

Eeeeyyyy! Someone's making comics from Discworld?

[–] SaneMartigan@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The movie is great too. It's on Amazon.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Don't give a single penny to amazon.

[–] thesystemisdown@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

The movie is great too. It's on Peacock.

[–] HeurtisticAlgorithm9@feddit.uk 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The movie is great too. It's pirateable.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago

That's better.

[–] ODGreen@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago

I remember somewhere that nomadic people (hunter-gatherers) would let their kids play with machetes. They would keep a close watch but not stop them. Kids would grow up with many scars but also would learn how to handle machetes safely.

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I love Death. I want my next horse to be a white gelding and I wanna name him Binky.

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[–] kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I see this comic from time to time, and I think it's one of my all-time favorites

[–] NichEherVielleicht@feddit.org 8 points 5 days ago

Pratchett...

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