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I think people revert to "old and proven" behavior in stressful situations. like, people only like to experiment when they feel that they can afford taking a hit. And right now that's not the case for a lot of people. so people try to go back to behavior that they had in the past, when things worked out for them.

that's why in the US you see a lot of people today trying to go back to the 1960s. because they think that if they just act the same way as their parents/grandparents, then things are gonna be good again and people will be able to live prosperous lives again. that's why you have stuff like "conservative" people in the US today and people trying to go back to "traditional" ways of life.

anyways, the people's wealth in 1960s wasn't based on how they behaved, but on exceptional circumstances. labor market had a lot of demand, so wages were high. and if people try to do the same things as they did in 1960, it's not gonna work out. they might do exactly the same thing that their parents did but the results would be different because the labor market doesn't have so much demand anymore, so wages are low. so reverting to 1960 behavior doesn't help, but people have to figure this out experimentally to believe it.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 5 points 7 hours ago

With a fertility rate of 1.76, thus a shrinking population, that seems like a grandiose idea to make any problem bigger.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Xenophobia is the trojan horse they're using to sneak fascism back into Europe and it's working.

[–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I get what you mean, and I agree, but xenophobia itself isn't exactly a pretty gift left at the gates. It's obviously wrong to be xenophobic, it shouldn't be accepted. I think the tip of the spear might be a better metaphor.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 44 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Ironic considering the UK spent hundreds of years making other countries British by force

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 20 points 11 hours ago

And that Britain has been a cultural melting pot for a couple of thousand years.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago

Really do hate that this ideology is so pervasive. Humans have held this view for, it seems, as long as we've existed and it's evident across every recorded account of our history.

Native-born vs assimilated people... it shouldn't fucking matter.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago

And how many of those think of Dev Patel (born in London) as British?

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Pretty fucking rich coming from the same country who forcibly "colonized" every nation they came across over the last millennia.

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

it’s pretty much because of that. Mostly through happenstance we had the most advanced navy when there was the cutting edge of warfare and therefore we managed to have one of the largest empires ever. So there’s a deeply ingrained myth of exceptionalism in the British psyche, where a lot of people still believe that we’ve got our position in the world because we deserve it as birthright

See also: Brexit

Mostly through happenstance we had the most advanced navy

it happens to be completely surrounded by sea.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Britons making sure the decline after losing the Empire, and later after Brexit continues.
Xenophobia and exceptionalism combined is probably the most direct route to decline of a civilization.
It's weird how USA and UK are messing up completely like they are dancing a weird dance of death together.

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago

The point is to enrich the wealthy few. That's it. Follow the money.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 14 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

When things get tough and people get anxious their bigotries come out. Nationalism and right-wing ideologies always take off in times of stress.

[–] MurrayL@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Because people want (need?) someone to blame, and the easiest person to blame is someone who isn’t like themselves.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, bigotry is basically an autoimmune disorder of the body politic

[–] CalmChaos72@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

This seems so simple and obvious, but I never thought of it that way. Well said!

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 hours ago

Sure… britons must be “born British”.

I’m fine with that since Britain itself is a fiction, and there is no specific country or region by that name.

People are welcome to create groups based on imaginary blood relationships. They’d just better not conflate that with their political nationality.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 2 points 8 hours ago

Humans are human no matter where they're born, assholes.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 11 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

If you take away everything but birth-right citizenship then eventually they will discredit birth-right citizenship, as well.

birth-right citizenship is mostly a thing of the americas

[–] MurrayL@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

We already don’t have birthright citizenship in the UK, which I guess makes the study results even funnier (in a sad way).

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works -1 points 12 hours ago

So it's a birth disease and we can't catch otherwise? Pfeww...I'm relieved! I don't need to wear a mask around the British visiting France anymore!