the irony of this coming from an ml user lol
this post was submitted on 29 Dec 2025
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Sounds like something a CIA agent would say!
Remember, it's only leftist infighting when you disagree with them.
It's not even always a MLM/anarchist split.
I've run into some terminally online-dumb shit. Look at my account age and post count for how strong a claim I'm making here:
I'm less terminally online brain poisoned and social media brain rotted than 95% of the people I find in left spaces in California. It's wild.
It's not even about real ideology sometimes. I recommended an essay about why being a cop is bullshit by George Orwell and got iced out of a mutual aid project for 'liking problematic authors', and that's not even the dumbest one. I've been called ableist about a disability I have for saying reading theory has value.
This is why I work on blind solidarity. If a leftist organization organizes something and I like it I help it and assume they're better than Democrats. If I think its demonic I ignore it.
Plus I like bragging about achieving to an infighter
“Leftism” is an umbrella term that encapsulates dozens of ideologies. “Leftist infighting” is a result of these groups wanting different things as they explicitly have different goals.
A communist and an anarchist doing “infighting” is largely a result of them having completely different goals, not CIA mind-control.
The CIA narrative you’re referring to pertains largely to socialist organization specifically.
It's both. Popular fronts are a thing, and Spanish Republican style coalitions are incredibly powerful tools. Political pluralism within leftist movements is healthy when we let it be healthy. The CIA, FBI, and various governments and reactionary groups have engaged in psyops against this for decades.
But these divisions are real and they come from real ideological differences and hurt. The CIA didn't force the red army to fire on the black armies, it didn't force the blunder of ideology at Kronstadt, it didn't force the betrayal in Spain. And it also didn't force anarchists to have issues controlling their people or implementing their goals. It didn't force the syndicalists to fuck up in South America and Berlin. And it didn't force the USSR and CCP to nearly go to war with each other.
What they did do however is project Gladius, COINTELPRO, operation condor, and various other anti left programs. They made damn sure Fred Hampton died and they made sure the Black Panthers couldn't trust each other enough to be effective. They also made sure the inner cities were filled with crack to destroy black anti capitalist organizing.
And here's where you get the mix. Anarchists already don't trust MLs, because of the aforementioned betrayals and disorganization, then you get government campaigns working to ensure that trust remains broken and that the culture becomes one in which cooperation is anathema. And the trots are kept distrustful of the MLs and the anarchists. MLs are encouraged to keep thinking of themselves as the only real socialists except MLMs. It's similar to the Russian campaigns between democrats and republicans, both already didn't like each other and the goal is to keep picking at the wounds and encouraging off putting behaviors.
Speaking at least in the context of the US, any revolutionary minded leftists (or "leftists", if you prefer) have goals that diverge so far from the present day as to be irrelevant.
This is why I I try to focus on the right and just ignore stupid people on the left. They can be by my side as long as they throw rocks at the fascists.
Not everything is the fault of the CIA. I don't think left parties need any help in self-destruction, they are well capable in this department. 😁
It's how it is, because the left parties are democratic and discuss many ideas and people get passionate about different things. The right are usually authoritarian and people fall in line, no matter how much they disagree with the actual set of ideas, also because of the consequences.
It's the natural natural way of things.
Sure. Wrecking absolutely exploits existing vulnerabilities. Resist exacerbating such vulnerabilities.
The CIA and Chinese troll farms lately
Chinese troll farms are trying to divide leftists?
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So, are tankies a CIA operation?
Tankies are a “CIA operation” in the sense that they’re responsible for the CIAs existence. It’s been the only historical threat to capitalist western powers.
If they didn't have a suitable threat, they'd have invented one.
They didn’t need to invent one.
Yeah.
honestly, most "leftist infighting" is men who won't stop hanging out with their rapist mates who got kicked out of an organising space. im an ancom but we have a wide array of ideologies in our scene but the bullshit shows up wherever you organise.