Late Stage Capitalism

Or:

“What if we give it to people that aren’t like you?”

How popular is ecosocialist transformation?

Same thing if you ask MSM-poisoned people if they think ethnostates are inherently unjust and dysfunctional without first mentioning that Israel is one.

This is what's frustrating about trying to talk to people about socialism. It's everything that liberal capitalist democracy claims to be but isn't. They've just been brainwashed into thinking it just means authoritarianism.

• Democracy: You want a government by the people, of the people, for the people? Well a system that lets the rich and powerful pour their vast resources into corrupting it doesn't allow for that. And that's before we even get into the explicit ways in which US "democracy" was set up to be resistant to popular influences. Also, in a less direct way, the more of society that is privatized, the less in under the preview of whatever semblance of democratic control we do have.

• Freedom: Under capitalism, your freedom is directly proportional to your wealth. Rich people and corporations can do whatever the hell they want and can often do things that infringe on the freedoms of others, but if you're poor, or even just not super rich, your ability to make choices in life is heavily constrained by what the market offers and what you can afford. If you can't afford to lose your job, you have to follow what your boss tells you. But hey, that's not a government, so it doesn't count right?

• Meritocracy: People want to be rewarded for their hard work and keep that reward? Well capitalism doesn't reward hard work. It rewards having enough money and power to siphon the value of other people's hard work. It doesn't matter what people did to get to the top, they could have inherited it, they could have done crimes, etc. They could be completely undeserving of it and still be put in charge and still take your money.

• Innovation: Capitalism doesn't promote innovation as anything more than a byproduct of a different force. ANYTHING that makes profit is incentivized, regardless of how productive it is for society. Sometimes that's new tech, but things that are equally valid under capitalism include: Weapons, cheap plastic crap, getting people addicted to things, finding ways to offer less and charge more, suing others to try to stop them from using anything vaguely similar to what you own IP for (regardless of if you were even the ones to originally make the thing instead of just acquiring the IP) etc. Under this framework, you can even consider lobbying the government as profit generating activity. You spend some money to get the government to do things that will allow you to make more money in the future.

I could go on, but you get the idea. It's just really hard to make the jump from having people agree with these things to realizing that the system itself is to blame and that in order to do better we need to change it.

That is why the hegemon is controlling all language. Just saying. I don't have a solution. But maybe teach people to understand concepts instead of going by the gut feeling of government/boss brainwash.

One time I pissed off a bunch of people because they wanted to create a community where food is shared and work is divided.

I said, "Oh that's a commune!" And they all nodded proudly.

Then I said, "Which is the foundation of communism."

And they immediately started flipping the fuck out because people get triggered by that.

I expect the comments below to be the same.

Then if you say it they'll raise 1950s farming failures and blame Socialism (rather than the conman Lysenko and his Lysenkoism)...

...and then pretend gulags were death camps... Even those for the 18 million that went through the gulag system the vast majority survived (one million dead out of 18 million isn't a death camp, even if they were political punishment camps).

Those are arguments against Authoritarianism, not Socialism!

Obligatory Carl Sagan is asked if he's a socialist clip

What would you say to people like someone I know (who gets all information from fb and xitter) who insists that we arent in capitalism, we are in corporatism, and TRUE free market capitalism is the end all be all (Ancap, Basically).

I explain over and over how it DOESNT work because of capitalisms inherent nature to create monopolies and the ownership class but they just say a free market cant have a monopoly. I disagree. But theyre not really worth arguing with, lol.

Side note, they are poor and make financially stupid decisions, generally they think theyre right about everything because they watch youtube. Its frustrating.

when the delinquent yells “Marxist!” in the dunce corner.