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[โ€“] Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah but lemme sucks more and has less posts...which has cut my doom scrolling by 90%. Ill stick w this.

[โ€“] OpenStars@piefed.social 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Absolutely, stay away from Reddit ๐Ÿคข๐Ÿคฎ, it'll do your mental health a lot of good!

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[โ€“] Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[โ€“] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Alt text - Image of Milton from Office Space sitting at his desk with the words: I was told that there would be blackjack and hookers

[โ€“] Wren@lemmy.today 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I made an account. Asked a few questions about the platform in their info com, made the mistake of bringing up why the "tankie triad" are pre-emptively blocked, got a bunch of people accusing me of being a tankie and telling me to look at MeanwhileOnGrad and the other com I can't remember. It's not for me, but I get why some folks prefer it.

I absolutely, 100% support Piefed and think this whole pissing contest between platforms is ridiculous. We're all participating in the fediverse. Lemmy was designed to be open-source, to be built on, forked, played with, whatever. Piefed is growing and diversifying the fediverse, same as Lemmy.

We're all in this together.

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[โ€“] anzo@programming.dev -3 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Since everyone is jumping to a "programming languages war" under the masquerade of 'Lemmy vs. PieFed' let me also point out that the people involved on each project is different... Weren't some of the lemmy devs facist apologists? I don't want to spread fake news, but this is an accusation I read more than once. Perhaps someone can share the source to these ideas... I havs interestest to know more

[โ€“] GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago

This depends on your definition of fascist. They are largely Stalin/Mao apologists and very heavy on current day CCP propaganda. This also means occasionally shilling for the Russian side in the Ukraine war. Oh yeah, and tiananmen square denial lmao.

Any way you look at it I think their politics are drastically incompatible with the idea of a website where English speakers can speak freely and create their own communities.

[โ€“] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 13 hours ago

I don't think I am allowed to answer this - I've had one comment removed already for trying to answer this question, citing rule 5, but you can read through those that were allowed to remain. The short answer though is yes.

[โ€“] Nalivai@lemmy.world -1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

One of the lemmy devs is a huge tankie, like "stalin did nothing wrong but if he did they deserved it" tankie

[โ€“] SigmaStalin@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 16 hours ago

BASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASED

Waow

[โ€“] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 150 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (21 children)

If this is a dig at Lemmy, Lemmy uses Rust. You'd know that's a popular language if you've kept up with programming news anytime in the last 5 years.

[โ€“] Bazell@lemmy.zip 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Yeah, but still Rust has higher entry level than Python making it harder to master for majority of people.

[โ€“] AudaciousArmadillo@piefed.blahaj.zone 54 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Notice how the OP specifically said well-known and widely used. Yes Rust is currently cool, but way way more people can actually work productively with Python.

[โ€“] Miaou@jlai.lu 18 points 1 day ago

Way more people work with python, productively is arguable

[โ€“] Korne127@lemmy.world 76 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Waitโ€ฆ PieFed uses Python? Holy shitโ€ฆ as someone who regularly uses both, Rust is such a better fit for something like this on this scale. That's actually one of the best arguments I've heard against PieFed

[โ€“] onlinepersona@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lemmy is so heave that @jeena@piefed.jeena.net replaced his lemmy instance with a piefed instance and it's using less resources. I like Rust, but like every tool, it has to be used properly.

[โ€“] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 42 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

From what I understand, the limitation in speed/scalability for lemmy/piefed/mbin is the database, not the back end language, so the specific language used appears to matter much less than it would seem.

Piefed has some some pretty great features over lemmy, but for the sysadmin side of things, it has a noticeable improvement regarding network resource usage, and potentially raw speed.

Piefed also appears to be less buggy overall. As an example, Lemmy has suffered from a persistent memory leak that's been around for years, with no fix in sight. You can see the opinion of our sysadmin who has been running slrpnk.net (lemmy instance) for 5 years now to find that just because lemmy is built in a memory-safe language, it doesn't automatically translate to a good experience.

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[โ€“] placebo@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Python and bootstrap. Honestly, piefed feels like someone's final cs50 project - which is why I'm hesitant to jump.

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[โ€“] Shatur@lemmy.ml 64 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I think for a large project Rust should be easier to manage in the long run.

[โ€“] DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also itโ€™s safer and much faster than python.

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[โ€“] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (21 children)

Notice how the OP specifically said well-known and widely used.

I did notice. If Rust isn't "widely used", then I'll need to let Apple, Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Mozilla, Huawei, Meta, the Linux kernel devs, and a fuckload of open-source projects know that they actually don't exist.

It's plently widely used, and unlike ~~a scripting language~~ (edit: Python), it's performant โ€“ as server software should be. Rust is not a hard language to use or learn either, and it's great for large projects.

[โ€“] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Rust is not a hard language to use or learn

Rust is a superb language, but it is famously not easy to learn.

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[โ€“] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It won't become widely used if nobody uses it for not being widely used. What is this, the job market?

[โ€“] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 62 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (23 children)

The point of ActivityPub is that this exact conversation doesn't matter.

I don't see the point is this dick measuring between piefed and Lemmy, and it is becoming a bit annoying. Don't we have enough problems as is?

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[โ€“] flamingos@feddit.uk 56 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

This crusade you have going on against the idea of Rust is getting borderline obsessive. Like when you called it an 'incomplete' language and never explained what that actually means.

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[โ€“] Babalugats@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I can't figure out how to use my lemmy account on piefed.

I don't know what is going on with lemmy.ml and them already being censored or whatever is happening, but I am not sure i agree with censoring any group whether or not they agree with the majority opinion.

The only guide that I can find about setting up a Piefed instance is the same persons blog with yunohost. It is a good guide, but are there any others? She seems to be the only one that has put any effort into creating and sharing one.

Just wondering if anyone can help a bottle of wine - deep person who starts back in work on Wednesday ๐Ÿซ  ๐Ÿ˜”

[โ€“] Microw@piefed.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve.

You can interact with piefed communities using your lemmy account, but that wont give you any of the features that piefed has.

In order to do that you need to create a completely new and separate piefed account to your lemmy account. You can sign up at a piefed instance/server like piefed.social or piefed.zip, or you could selfhost like in the guide you found.

[โ€“] Babalugats@feddit.uk 2 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Thanks. Cold hard light of day now.. Sober and very cold.

I thought I could use my existing Lemmy login to login to piefed, the same way I can subscribe to different Lemmy communities from all over. Admittedly I hadn't looked too much into it.

I do plan on creating a piefed community, or would like to. I have read that guide, was just wondering if there were other guides where people may have done things slightly differently etc.

[โ€“] OpenStars@piefed.social 2 points 16 hours ago

Your terminology is off, leading to confusion.

You don't log into generic "software", but rather specific "instances" aka machines. Your current account is on feddit.uk, which runs the Lemmy software, an implementation of the ActivityPub Protocol, which makes it part of the overall Threadiverse, the threaded, topic-focused subset of the wider Fediverse. Other members of the Threadiverse include PieFed and K/Mbin, and others too (nodeBB, flarum, the latter I'm not positive is all the way here yet though, and Sublinks although that project hasn't been updated in a long while after the developer had a baby).

Anyway, PieFed is another implementation of the ActivityPub Protocol and therefore another member of the Threadiverse. Here is an example community on a PieFed instance: !casualconversation@piefed.social. Note how clicking that link shows the content without you having to leave your instance at all - because it is also on the Threadiverse.

I am on one of the PieFed instances, while you are on one of the Lemmy instances - note how that does not impact our conversation here in the slightest. Though PieFed does offer a large number of features that Lemmy lacks - and conversely Lemmy has a tiny bit of features that PieFed does not do as well with.

You can start your own instance if you like, and if you do it can be either Lemmy or PieFed (or Mbin, etc.), but that's a separate issue. For now if you are considering the additional features that PieFed offers over Lemmy (caveat: you won't see them in a mobile app yet, only the web browser interface is fully functional atm), then you can check one out at e.g. https://piefed.world/, or see the list at https://piefed.social/auth/instance_chooser.

A "community" on the Threadiverse means something different than an "instance". A community is like a subreddit, it's the focal point of our talking on the Threadiverse, unlike e.g. specific people being the focus on Mastodon (there you subscribe to "people"/"accounts", whereas here you subscribe to "communities", or I think Mbin calls them "magazines"). In order to start your own community using PieFed software, you'll definitely need an account on an instance that runs PieFed - whether you host it yourself or get an account on an existing one.

I have never tried to start my own PieFed instance, but people say that it's much more streamlined and requires fewer resources than Lemmy. There are other areas that Lemmy does better though, especially searching for content where PieFed's implementation is horribly bad (by design believe it or not, it has not been made a priority yet, so whenever I need that functionality I switch over to my Lemmy alt, or you can do it on any Lemmy instance without needing to log in with an account at all). Here is a helpful community in that regard: !piefed_meta@piefed.social.

[โ€“] foo@feddit.uk 3 points 21 hours ago

The email analogy holds up in this case: you can't log in to your gmail account with your protonmail credentials, but gmail users can send emails to protonmail users.

In fact, forget the programming language!

Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.

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