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[-] cwagner@beehaw.org 73 points 7 months ago

Is there anything new in this post that I’m missing?

[-] ericjmorey@beehaw.org 17 points 7 months ago

I don't think so.

[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago

Nope. This has been going on for months already. Nothing new here. There's atleast three different kinds of pop-ups for adblock users and the same solution works for all of them.

[-] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 months ago

which is? besides not using YouTube?

[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Disable all other adblockers, disable enhanced tracking protection for youtube.com in Firefox (shield icon in addres bar), remove your custom adblocking rules and update uBlock Origin manually atleast twice a day; settings > filter list > quick fixes > click the clock icon > click update. Alternatively you can also just purge catches and update all filters but that takes longer is is not necessary

[-] TheCalzoneMan@beehaw.org 3 points 7 months ago

I've been sitting pretty with both uBlock Origin and uMatrix stopping both the ads and the delay from YouTube. Not sure what exactly is doing which, but it's been working for me

[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah it might not matter but for people having issues with these pop-ups, that's the most likely culpript

[-] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 1 points 7 months ago

right, thank you but I think I will stick with invidious for a while, that's easier

[-] janguv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago

It's a strange post in general. Someone's substack, written in some generic faux-journalist style, with one source for the main claim ("a Redditor"), who isn't linked to. Don't know why it's being shared here.

[-] cwagner@beehaw.org 2 points 7 months ago

It’s a substack post. At this point, my quality expectation is

  1. Wordpress - Probably someone who really cares about what they write about
  2. Substack - Either low effort spam like this that gets upvoted for some reason or someone pushing their agenda, hard
  3. Medium - Either spam, wrong, dumb, or too simple. Literally never worth reading.
[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 2 points 7 months ago

My understanding of the three platforms, too. Interesting how similar people congregate in platforms.

[-] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 34 points 7 months ago

FYI: This has been going on for about a month. If you still see warnings, update your ad blocker, switch to UBlock Origin, and/or check their FAQs.

[-] Vej@lemm.ee 28 points 7 months ago

I'm okay with just not using YouTube. The Internet sucks compared to how it was back in the day. Now it's built around selling you something. Fuck that.

[-] Onihikage@beehaw.org 18 points 7 months ago

It's not even about selling you something, it's about selling you, period. They sell the user's attention to advertisers, and don't much care about anything else because anything else is too hard to quantify in a spreadsheet.

These days I mostly go for paid content like Nebula, alternative platforms like Odysee or PeerTube, or even Newgrounds - remember them? It's not always possible to avoid YouTube entirely since some creators I follow only have a presence there, but transitions like this take time.

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

Same. Since... forever I maybe use youtube once or twice per year. There's nothing interesting for me there that I can't find somewhere else, and often in written (not video form), which is less time consuming and less prone to useless "padding" for "monetization".

[-] ozoned@beehaw.org 23 points 7 months ago

Invidious still wotks great for me.

There's also Piped.

Peertube is also gaining traction and I personally enjoy that, just needs more content creators to stop worrying about chicken and egg and start protecting their content.

[-] 0x815@feddit.de 18 points 7 months ago

YouTube Says New 5-Second Video Load Delay Is Supposed to Punish Ad Blockers, Not Firefox Users

Firefox users are reporting an 'artificial' load time on YouTube videos. YouTube says it's part of a plan to make people who use adblockers "experience suboptimal viewing, regardless of the browser they are using."

[-] Skelectus@suppo.fi 46 points 7 months ago

Honestly, staring at a blank page for 30 seconds would be preferable to 30 seconds of ads.

[-] ozoned@beehaw.org 17 points 7 months ago

As someone that watches Twitch through MPV, I can confirm watching "Ad Playing" is preferable to actually watching an annoying ad.

[-] Crotaro@beehaw.org 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I knew I wasn't just imagining things. I like to listen to music on YouTube when driving to work. And sure, the internet reception there is spotty (danke, Merkel), but for a couple weeks now I've consistently had a very long "buffering" period every time the next video/song loaded up.

Well, joke's on them. I found out about NewPipe and its built-in video/audio downloader, because I complained to an acquaintance about it.

[-] DeForrest_McCoy@beehaw.org 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I only seem to barely notice the difference... At first i couldnt understand what everyone was talking about...but yeah its a small delay over what it used to be. Also it seems any bookmarked vids will no longer autoplay.... you have to click play... is that a thing anyone else has to do ?

I tried Edge and it seemed only a small bit faster to me, but it did autoplay. Are there any other anomalous strange effects google has done to youtube that i might have missed ?

I never had issues with adds on FF and ublock ... still don't.

[-] howrar@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago

Needing to click to play a video is a Firefox feature, and it's been there for ages already. It doesn't allow any audio to play until you interact with the page.

[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 7 months ago

Ublock origin is still working fine for me with the occasional manual filter list update.

[-] tuckerm@supermeter.social 9 points 7 months ago

Yeah, I actually haven't seen the nag screen in a couple days, whereas I was seeing it often last week. Whatever updated circumvention uBlock has figured out, it's working just about perfectly.

[-] aeternum@kbin.social 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

same here. u block works fine for me.

[-] zcd@lemmy.ca 12 points 7 months ago
[-] Maestro@kbin.social 5 points 7 months ago

Too bad the alternatives suck so much. Vimeo used to be nice. I don't know where they went wrong.

[-] Summzashi@lemmy.one 5 points 7 months ago

Vimeo was never intended as a YouTube competitor. It's like saying Flickr is a competitor to Instagram.

[-] mPony@kbin.social 8 points 7 months ago

rather than uninstalling adblockers entirely, can't they just whitelist YouTube? Ad Trackers only have value when they track people across multiple sites: if the tracker only functions on YT then users get the video views they want and YT gets near-worthless tracking data.

[-] coffeejunky@beehaw.org 5 points 7 months ago

There is a reason I only watch YouTube on my phone or laptop and not my smart TV. Because we went from one ad every few videos to multiple unskippable ads per video. It has become worse than old cable TV.

[-] JWBananas@startrek.website 8 points 7 months ago
[-] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 7 months ago

AdNauseam is great.

[-] GammaGames@beehaw.org 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Where do I sign up? I’d take 720p with no ads easy

[-] Skies5394@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago

They’re counting on people being complacent and just whitelisting.

The problem is, they’re probably right to try the tactic too. People need those dopamine hits.

[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 points 7 months ago

Didn't this happen a couple months ago? I've been using UBO after the update and NewPipe (Android)/FreeTube (desktop) before that without issues. The new thing they're doing is the 5 second delay for Firefox users.

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