This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
“The Nazis were inconvenient, but the use of GenAI that you find everywhere else is a bridge too far!!”
Yeah, I'm not going to defend training AI with copyrighted works... But I'm not going to waste energy siding with anyone who was okay with X. If you stayed in X, you'vr made your own bed. Now don't cry because the owner is an AI-pandering nazi, we all knew that already.
Generally in Japan they don’t see much of Elon’s “prowesses”, so I can kinda understand why artists like him might not have caught wind of the Nazi direction the platform has taken until it actually hit them.
And yes, Ignorantia non excusat, but it’s still something, at least.
For anyone wondering, "Ignorantia non excusat" is Latin, and it means "I speak Latin, and you don't. Suck my balls."
It threatens their bottom line. That's all that matters.
"OH, WELL NOW YOU'VE GONE TOO FAR!!!"
i was telling a buddy about that who somehow hadnt seen the salute or heard of it and my other buddy said well obama did that too and mentioned others. where they were stills taken out of a video that looked like the nazi salute. so i just pulled up the video and that was that lol
Those don't sound like people worth being friends with.
At the very least very high maintenance friendships. I don't know if I'd have the sanity to afford them, but I'm not OP.
leaving x or insta at this point means youre very.... very late to the party.
Debian cut ties in January, so if you quit after that, you're officially slower to change than Debian.
That's one of the rarest and finest insults I've ever seen
+100
Ubuntu is still on Twitter. You don't want Ubuntu to quit before you do, do you?
It means you're ignorant or morally bankrupt, or at least flexible....
Misguided, uneducated, oblivious, and downright stubborn are other options. Sunk-cost fallacy can keep people stuck in a loop.
Better late than never
It always bothered me how so many Twitter users in Japan just kept using Xitter after everything Musk has done to it, like they're not even aware. I think the language barrier has been filtering some of it out until now.
But,
I am not afraid of AI; I believe in its future and potential. However, I cannot accept my work being used, learned from, or exploited without my consent.
Boichi, that's what's been happening with AI to everybody's art this entire time!
who tf still uses Xitter...
Some companies and government departments in my country use twitter and facebook exclusively for contact and info/news. It’s insane but I have to keep a passive account for this. Especially the government, because we have an official Mastodon server for that. Ughhh.
Something like 173 million users.
minus about 90million bots. then u left with about 80million boomers
Yes, unfortunately Boichi is leaving… for Instagram.
But hopefully this is at least a wake-up call for some artists that they should really consider leaving for platforms with “less malicious intentions”. Maybe one day someone as big as him will decide to go fediverse, we can only hope.
Swapping one boot for another...
Here, take this, it is dangerous to go alone
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In our world of people dismissing any issue that isn't their own, nothing matters, and only the worst people win.
If people didn't leave before this, this or that group getting pissed off won't be the death of it then either.
We don't need everyone to care about everything, but the current paradigm of not only apathy, but actively fighting against other peoples causes because they aren't your own has really doomed us.
I’m not necessarily saying this is the case for these artists, but the sad truth is the current society is perfectly engineered to make the average worker as apathetic as possible.
You work 8 hours a day not counting commute and meals, which means you’re left with very little free time, and you’re really tired on top of that. Plenty of people choose to spend that time doing things that actually make them happy or relaxed, instead of looking at the state of the world and being even more sad because of learned (or sometimes even actual) helplessness.
Of course, it would be better if they didn’t, but can you really blame them when the system is stacked against us?
(Obviously the whole situation applies to the apathetic/apolitical ones, the “actively fighting against other peoples causes because they aren’t your own” bunch can go fuck themselves)
Nah, they will stay there untill the site dissolves itself, some people are beyond repair.
Yeah they'll log out in protest, but they'll all be back in a week or so. Happens every time.
new tool could be used to modify others’ works without their consent.
This specific part is kinda stupid.
Nothing was ever preventing anyone from modifying an artists work. Its incredibly common. No one needs consent to modify anything.
To distrubute something that isn't yours that doesn't fall under fair use, absolutely. But modifying without consent is a joke.
I think all the uproar is about new Grok functions that allow you to edit with AI and repost (aka distribute) images directly from within Xitter (I’m not sure that this is the case but I’m definitely not going to log in that thing to verify that).
People still on Twitter are actively, knowingly supporting Nazis and the destruction of society itself. Fuck any artist that still used that platform.
Honestly I’m floored this is what it takes for some people to leave X. 🤷🏼♂️
Its OK for AI to edit artist's work because its out there
but its not OK to repair an iPhone, John Deere tractor you own because copyright applies
Where are they leaving/going to?
Some are moving to Bluesky. After this happened Bluesky experienced a surge in registrations according to https://bskycheck.com/stats.php
Unfortunately, the two “big names” I know of (Boichi and Kei Urana) are both going to Instagram.
EDIT: it seems at least Kei Urana is on Bluesky too
Sigh
If they’re leaving X now, they’ll probably be back. Everyone who actually wanted to leave on moral grounds probably left at least a year ago.
Ugh, I'm so tired of this. I never had twitter in the first place, but I did used to have Instagram and I loved it for all the artists I'd follow on there. But I dropped that a year or two ago (officially deleted my accounts 😤) and just stuck with Tumblr ever since. But so many of my favorite former fanartists just REFUSE to let either service go, despite them very openly stating their new AI policies or worsening ToS policies.
I know Bluesky will turn out the same way as the others, but I've been trying to encourage artists to move to BS and use bridgy fed so I can still see them on Mastodon. Like you'd literally get the visibility of TWO platforms by using bridgy fed rather than sticking with just Insta or just Twitter. And yes, Instagram and Twitter have bigger numbers than BS or the Fediverse, but one day the AI issues will grow too big and you'll lose those numbers anyway when you leave the platform. Plus how many of those numbers are bots anyway?
But it just sucks man. I only have Tumblr and the occasional visit to Pixiv as my source of fanart. Mastodon and Pixelfed are just lacking, or make it very hard to find the artists I'm looking for (and I literally joined Pixelfed.art!). I've tried following hashtags but it's a little dry...
Not an artist, but like to brag that Idumped that shitshow before is was known as X.
If we are bragging about that, I never went on it to having with.
