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Video shows Gen Xu Qinxian explaining why he refused to deploy troops to crush 1989 student-led demonstrations

Rare footage of a People’s Liberation Army (PLA) general who defied orders to lead his troops into Tiananmen Square and crush the 1989 student protesters has been leaked online, offering a highly unusual glimpse into the upper echelons of the military at one of the most fraught moments in modern Chinese history.

General Xu Qinxian’s refusal to take his troops from the PLA’s prestigious 38th Group Army, a unit based on the outskirts of Beijing, into the capital has been the stuff of Tiananmen lore for decades.

The six-hour video recording of Gen Xu’s court martial hearing the next year sheds light on the rare act of defiance. In the video, Xu said he refused because he did not want to become “a sinner in history”.

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[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago

Great, now reveal all epstein files without black outs.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 22 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

General Xu was 100% correct. The entire CCP and high ranking PLA officers should have thrown into a courtroom and sent to prison for murder.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 52 points 8 hours ago (11 children)

Don't worry, I've been told by users that it didn't happen, and that if it did, it wasn't what we saw, and it wasn't that bad, and that, if it was, they deserved it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 59 minutes ago

I’ve been told by users that it didn’t happen

Don't be shy. Name some names.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

It's all AI anyway. If you saw tank man before, you are being lied to by western propaganda.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Ai in 1989 was so advanced lol

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Like, duh? It's all laid out in Neuromancer. 🤷‍♂️

ICE was black back then, too.

[–] uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Ice like in cyberpunk or...?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 3 hours ago

The fatal firewall shit.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Imagine if 2020 had AI becoming this popular.

Pretty sure there would be conspiracy theories that accuse the George Floyd's murder video of being "AI"

The future is so cooked.

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 15 points 8 hours ago

Time to change some of my challenge responses on some of my equipment to include him as the greatest chinese citizen. I have the standard remember Tiananmen Square response. Always fun to let them port scan and attempt to brute force with those responses.

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