I can't get over what a pseudo intellectual simpleton he was. Like he's evil but I doubt the kind of evil that consciously admires Hitler - he 100% bought that because he thought there were "lessons to be learned" or some such silly bullshit. Not a genuine scholarly interest in Hitler's rule fuelled by concern about modern parallels or anything like that, just the most dumb guy "he was an evil genius!!!" take possible.
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The baby clothes reminded me of when pizzagate people were digging through James Alefantis's instagram and among other weird shit (i.e. preteen girl with her hands duct taped to a pool table, haha how fun right) was just a picture of some baby, a bunch of pills and bottles, and hundreds of euros. Haha how funny. What's the joke there, again?
Anyway i asked google AI if his name has come up with any of this Epstein stuff and it was VERY clear about how 10000% fake pizzagate was
I decided to familiarise myself after reading this because I was a lib back then and dismissed Pizzagate as a Hillary smear job. Now, I'm not saying that it's not true, there's a lot of weird and disturbing things, but when you look at summaries like this: https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/here-s-all-the-pizzagate-evidence-they-tried-to-erase-from-the-internet (written in 2025)
It feels like they're just throwing whatever at the wall and seeing what sticks. There's not really any real evidence, the most damning stuff is the disturbing Instagram shit re: James Alefantis and that weird fucking email about the kids in the pool that really can't be read any other way. But otherwise it's a lot of "this person did weird art that Alefantis liked!" and "this judge sentences CSAM cases lower than usual" and "the guy who went to the pizzeria and found nothing was actually an actor - oh and they killed him anyway like 9 years later for no reason."
It all tries to lead you to the vague conclusion they're all part of some abuse ring without outright saying it or offering any substantial evidence.
Plus the fact that they mention Bill Clinton's connection to Epstein but leave out any mention of Trump anywhere damages their credibility and makes it look like they're selectively choosing targets - and yet they managed to find a way to slip in Joe Biden's name.
And what rubs me up the wrong way is all of the "symbolism" inference - some of it is suspect, yes, but a lot of it sounds like they're just attributing malice to any symbol they find. This symbol vaguely looks like this other symbol if you squint and that symbol is definitely 100% a pedo codeword, trust me bro. Because these guys obviously need to leave dogwhistles on menus for each other despite the argument being that they all operate within the same network.
Overall, it's just a major reach to me. They might be on the cusp of the truth, but as expected from loser 4chan "investigators" who almost certainly started this as a smear job against the Dems, they've built a piss poor case of next to nothing. Is a lot of it perturbing? Yes. Could this be exposed in a decade or two by more competent investigators who find actual smoking guns? Quite possibly. But if this is the best Pizzagate has so far, it's just not that compelling.
They might be on the cusp of the truth, but as expected from loser 4chan "investigators" who almost certainly started this as a smear job against the Dems, they've built a piss poor case of next to nothing.
That's the thing for me, the whole history of this shit was re written, I watched it happen in front of me. It wasn't "loser 4chan investigators" driving this shit, it was loser redditors on the DNCleaks subreddit. Yeah theres a lot of overlap there, but you understand how tying it explicitly to 4chan poisons it for liberals, right? Same with the comet pizza thing. Some random dipshit claims there's a basement they're eating children in, or whatever? All of a sudden that's what "it's about" and oh, now all they need to do is say "there isn't even a basement, it was all fake" and that's how it's remembered. That's the main point the google AI summary threw at me. Pizzagate wasn't even "about" Alefantis or comet pizza, they came up like months into people reading through these emails.
Honestly looking at some of the shit on the site you linked is worse than I remember, I don't remember the Podestas having "art" of clearly adult figures jerking off or pissing over children in cages. I do remember how he and his brother look EXACTLY LIKE the e-fit images of the guy who kidnapped Madeline mccann though (yes I know people say 'it's supposed to be two images of the same guy' like it makes it any less of a 100% identical appearance)
I'm pretty sure the site is run by a right winger though because 1) they posted a bunch of Musk tweets about it and 2) who the fuck else is going to have an interest or motivation to run a site like this here in 2025
Plus the fact that they mention Bill Clinton's connection to Epstein but leave out any mention of Trump anywhere damages their credibility and makes it look like they're selectively choosing targets - and yet they managed to find a way to slip in Joe Biden's name.
Yeah agree but also liberals and conservatives are both doing that shit with the Epstein stuff.
P.s. i don't think I've ever seen a conspiracy theory of any kind scrubbed from the internet the way pizzagate shit was, which I take to be evidence of its own that there's something to it, even if it's just something as mundane as the rich and connected wanting to shut down active questioning into their connections
Yeah, the purging is definitely suspicious, and there's enough suspicious behaviour for there to be SOMETHING untoward occurring here, but I will say:
I do remember how he and his brother look EXACTLY LIKE the e-fit images of the guy who kidnapped Madeline mccann though (yes I know people say 'it's supposed to be two images of the same guy' like it makes it any less of a 100% identical appearance)
This is even more unbelievable to me. Like, these guys happen to be involved in one of the most well known child kidnappings of the last 20 years? It makes it sound more like people trying to tie them to things in the public sphere of understanding. And what's more, these high profile, recognisable, well connected guys are pulling off kidnappings THEMSELVES in broad daylight? Even in a foreign country, that's far-fetched. Surely they have faceless patsys to do the dirty work for them.
This is even more unbelievable to me. Like, these guys happen to be involved in one of the most well known child kidnappings of the last 20 years? It makes it sound more like people trying to tie them to things in the public sphere of understanding. And what's more, these high profile, recognisable, well connected guys are pulling off kidnappings THEMSELVES in broad daylight? Even in a foreign country, that's far-fetched. Surely they have faceless patsys to do the dirty work for them.
I mean, yeah, it would be unbelievably wild and fucked up, but I mean... they look just like the images! It's not like pizzagate people made them look the way they do and iirc I never saw anyone say the e-fit images were fake or doctored. It's most likely just a really weird coincidence but it's still a really weird coincidence imo
It is definitively a really weird detail and it's another suspicious thing on top of a billion other suspicious things, but surely it's easy to prove or disprove. If they were in Portugal at the time (which a Pizzagate FBI 'insider' claims), then it's going to be extremely hard to discount. If they weren't, it's not them. I suppose the theory hasn't been tested that far, or maybe it has and they've been ruled out, or maybe they're too influential for it to progress as a theory. Who knows.
I will say, if they were the type of people to be so reckless as to personally kidnap a child in broad daylight, there would be more on them.
