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"you voted for this"
-one of like 12 people in kentucky who didn't vote for trump
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16000 in the county this plant is in voted for Harris.
At our last contact negotiation one of the stewards said pretty much the same thing to a guy who would not shut the fuck up about how the company was doing better than it would let on. And that his department was being shuttered out of spite.
This was weeks after Trump was elected, and we all kind of knew tariffs were coming. We had stronger membership than we'd ever had but everyone was extremely nervous about how much steel would even be available to buy. Last time he was elected the company hemorrhaged money on steel because of the Cheeto.
So this guy was a well known trump supporter, and the Steward understandably lost his cool when the guy leveled one accusation after another at him.
He did end up keeping a job, he had to take RIF but he's still employed.
I live in a purple county of a very red state. I get where he's coming from. Most of the union guys vote for pro union candidates. "You voted for this" is something we all kind of think once a day.
Whoa, I want to point out that 2/3 of Kentucky adults didn't vote for Trump.
That's also a terrible statistic, because Trump voters outnumber all other voters by almost 2:1. I'm sure other half of eligible voters would not have turned the needle the other way, but 700k voters did not want him.
At the same time, they didn’t vote for this.
No. They voted to be racist. They are too fucking dumb to think if anything else.
Yes, just because they also voted for racism, doesn’t absolve them of the rest of the plainly obvious shit they were voting for. Racism is expensive.
Every month USA will be less and less competitive in the EV space. The world will not wait for us.
Ya they will...they'll wait to pounce on a soft target.
"Instead of plowing billions into the future knowing these large EVs will never make money, we are pivoting," Ford Chief Executive Jim Farley said in an interview with the WSJ.
And yet, you "plowed billions into the future" by building a brand new goddamn factory, you idiot.
Factories take years and years to plan and build, it's very likely that it was still reasonable that the USA wouldn't elect Trump for a second term when the factory was approved
It was BlueOval's factory though?
Wow their population is between 1900-2700. Obviously not every employee lives there, but it means less people going there / being there. That's going to have catastrophic local effects.
Yup. All those lunches or coffee/something in the morning on the way to work. Gone. Have the day you voted for.
Plus half the fuel stations, since no-one is driving to work, and half the mechanics, and the car lots, and the car washes. And pretty much most of everything else, since belts will have to be further tightened than they already were.
Fucked around, found out. Zero sympathy.
This is also partly Ford's fault. The F150 Lightning is very heavy and very expensive. It's capabilities as a truck aren't that great for the pricetag. They needed to be making more smaller, affordable EVs than shooting for the moon.
They're still making the Mustang Mach-E, and that CUV sells better than the actual Mustang.
The guys that founded Tesla (not Elon) actually did a great market analysis. They said EVs are expensive, so you don't start at the budget end. You actually start at the expensive luxury end. With trucks though it's hard because the buyers think they need a towing truck and the aerodynamics and thus range are awful.
The problem is everyone else followed that.
That strategy worked great for Tesla. It’s seems valid for lucid, although too early to tell. It seems to be working for Rivian but 2026 is what will determine that. These are all early adopters who were able to make a compelling high end vehicle.
But it hasn’t been an effective strategy for legacy manufacturers, those who are late to the party, who are producing same old vehicles with different power train. They don’t seem to notice that too many of their attempts just aren’t compelling
But more importantly the market conditions have changed. There already are compelling high end EVs. They’re not going into an empty market, they are late. EVs have found a niche and companies are supplying it. But what hasn’t happened (at least in the us) is that breakout to mass acceptance. What about the rest of us?
If I want a $100k EV, I have choices so why would I buy some legacy manufacturers half asses first attempt?. If I want a $50k EV I have choices, including those which have already been refined through a couple generations. Cars are slowly working their way into the general market. But if I can only afford a $30k car, where are my choices? Why isn’t ford looking at that market? The market has changed: they need to do their own research and should have gone where the opportunity is rather than copy those before
While I guess I have to applaud the Lightning as an attempt to break open a new market segment, they should have known going in that these are your most conservative customers. They want what they got last time, they’re not trying anything new, and they’re not compromising even in features they never use. It was always going to be tough
You have this all mixed up. New features are always expensive. So new feautes always start at the top end and work their way down. Then as you get the design nailed down, the supply chain flowing, and economies of scale working the price comes down. Manufacturers don't get to say "I want it cheap" and poof it's cheap.
Sure but you can’t follow someone else’s strategy when you’re not them and the market has changed.
Look at Slate as a possible alternative. Instead of blindly following teslas strategy starting withbhigh end vehicles and working your way down, they did their own market research. They identified an unserved market segment and designed a compelling product to serve it. We’ll see in a couple years whether it pans out for them
Or look at the plethora of Chinese manufacturers. They’re competing on both price and features. They went all in and went from starting later than legacy us manufacturers should have and quickly zoomed ahead.
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Speaking of which, IDK why anyone would want a Mach-E. Sat in one and it was mind-blowing just how Spartan the interior of those cars are. Even the real Mustangs have have nicer interiors, and sports cars aren't exactly known for their luxury. But the Mustang might as well be a Bugatti by comparison to the Mach-E.
Noticed that trend in a lot of EVs lately, actually. They all seem to have the same bare-bones, Tesla-like interiors: all you get is just a steering wheel, fake leather seats, some vents, and a giant screen that covers half the dashboard. And they expect people to pay $100K for these econo-boxes.
Tesla somehow successfully rebranded minimalism as luxury, and that was spectacular for their bottom line while trying to sell electric vehicles to people for as cheaply as possible, which they absolutely needed to do because widespread adoption was going to be the only thing that would justify the proliferation of charging stations (where the real money is made).
Everybody else who tried to follow Tesla in the EV market (after sitting on their hands for years like idiots) thought the secret sauce was minimalism, when really it was just people compromising on features to have the ability to charge their car for a lot less money than it would have cost to fill it up with gasoline.
I bought a Mach-e back in April, yeah sure, the interior is pretty sparse, but I don't mind, you can pick them up for $30,000 CAD at this point. Biggest plus in the back of my mind is I never have to pay for gas again, I've already saved so much money.
What do you mean? The Mach E actually has physical buttons for basically anything you need to do, which isn't the case with many other EVs. You also have a dashboard behind the wheel that shows actual important stuff like your speed, battery, etc. I've driven it a couple times and I have never felt that I need to do anything with that iPad while I'm driving.
What market are you in where it costs over $100k? It's not even that much in Sweden, where cars are usually much more expensive than the US.
but fords main customers base only drives large overcompensated trucks, they arnt going to buy small ones.
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To the ones who didn't vote for this you have my support. For those that did you can fuck right off back to your cesspool life.
That's Mitch McConnell country, those greasy pricks love fucking up 🙏
I was at the broadcast meeting for employees. They obviously spoke very underhandedly, but also it was incredibly rushed, seeing it pop up on my calendar the evening before. They really wanted to make sure those employees got canned before the holiday break.
They yearn for the coal mines.
Red oblast problems. Zero sympathy and go find a job with Lada in fucking Russia.
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