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[–] gointhefridge@lemmy.zip 41 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Good, maybe now prices for them will finally come back down to reality. $500 for a switch is bonkers and $800 for an Xbox of any variety is outright criminal.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 41 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Prices won’t fall, not until the AI bubble bursts and the related industries shift focus back to consumer-level goods.

At best, you could hope prices remain steady for a few years and real-world incomes slowly rise to match this new normal.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

industries shift focus back to consumer-level goods.

And how is this going to happen when nobody has any money?

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The principal of supply and demand still applies, they will cut prices up until the point they either go out of business or they find a sufficient number of buyers.

Companies like Nvidia, Micron and Samsung are currently chasing massive profits off enterprise customers, but will come crawling back to consumers once the AI bubble bursts (assuming they survive the resulting market collapse).

As an example, if Nvidia can turn one TSMC wafter into one AI accelerator that they can sell for $40K, or into ~5 RTX 5090s they can sell for $2K/ea - they will sell as many of the $40K cards as they can, and only use failed wafers to try and satiate RTX 5090 demand.

But if there are no more AI customers, they will be forced to drop prices in order to shift more volume. If they can’t drop prices further due to wafer costs, then they will pass up wafer allocations from TSMC.

If TSMC sees too many wafers free up - they will be forced to drop prices to all customers (AMD, Apple etc.) to try and pick up the slack. They in turn will need to drop prices in order to try and increase sales volumes.

This will have a downwards pressure on prices and a “return to the mean” moment for tech prices. It will just be a painful couple of years until we get to that point, and honestly with the way things are currently going - it will be the least of our worries.

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[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 days ago

Actually, I have bad news for you... prices are likely going to go up from the AI bubble plus the upcoming RAM shortage.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Prices are not going to come down. If they could get a Switch 2 in your home for $300, they would. The component parts are too expensive.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

X (doubt)

They're too greedy to let things go at cost now, they know parents and fans will get it anyway. Look at parking alone for disney world, like $175.

Greed has ruined companies. Nintendo won't sell bubble bobble for NES, I have to find a used cartridge or do without. They don't sell nor support it. So I use a rom and they cry about that. They don't get it both ways, fuck Nintendo. I'll never stop seeding/sharing my massive rom collection, switch games included.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (5 children)

The funny thing about Disney, and believe me, I don't want to defend them here, is that they've found ways to admit and fit far more people into the park as demand rose for a thing that inherently has fixed supply. More or less the same thing is happening with GPUs and memory right now as AI demand is sucking up so much supply and they can't be produced any faster. The supply can't increase, so the prices go up. They have to. Nintendo and Sony both know they stand to make more money after the fact if they sell you a cheaper console, but they can't lose $200 per unit either, or there's very little chance they make a profit on it ever.

[–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 days ago

Consoles are normally sold at a loss if I remember correctly. Companies tend to bet on people buying enough games to make up the difference, because generally people do. Most people aren't sitting on a console with only 3 or 4 games for it.

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[–] gointhefridge@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Switch 2 has a much healthier margin than Switch. Nintendo is actually making money on the hardware this time. They don’t have the lineup or the services to justify the hardware being a loss leader and won’t until probably 2027.

Here’s to hoping the Steam Machine is $799 or less.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The Steam Machine is just about the only "Console" that can not be a loss leader because it's just a PC.

If it's too good of a deal - people will just buy them for offices.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

I was looking at getting a Switch 2 MicroSD card for a gift and shit's bonkers, yo.

I get they changed the standard for the Switch 2, but $300 for 1TB?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FQJBDLZY

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

I don't think its necessarily the prices that are the issue but what you're getting for it. Games have historically not kept up with inflation and still cost less than what we were paying for SNES carts in the 90s, but now they're the 15th sequel of some franchise and are only half finished so there isn't much draw for customers.

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That doesn’t feel too surprising. There’s nothing really new to buy in terms of hardware; likely everyone who wanted a specific console now has one. And others like myself are waiting: I want a Switch 2 OLED, but that’s not available yet.

And there’s also the fact that many game releases now suck, with no real must-have titles for console to boost sales right now. And new physical titles are expensive.

It’s just a dip caused by a combination of factors. If GTA VI releases next november, the chart is going to look like a rocket taking off.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

And there’s also the fact that many game releases now suck

I don't think I've ever had more great new game releases, personally.

[–] vega208@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Not sure why anyone would buy games at this point.

There are so many games available for free, and any new ones kinda suck donkey balls. Couple that with a shitty economy, grocery prices are through the roof, and it's no surprise people aren't wasting money on video games as much.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Because the new ones are great. There has been no shortage of bangers for the last few years.

[–] vega208@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

If you say so.

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

On a related note I had a hankering for playing the Etrian Oddysey games and went to look for it at the Nintendo Switch store.

Eighty fucking dollars for the trilogy remaster. Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum I guess.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

…what physical games and hardware?

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (3 children)
[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

The market was just way smaller back then. Video games weren't a mainstream hobby yet.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 days ago

PlayStation 1 had only just come to America a month or two prior, and the n64 wouldn't exist for another year. Basically, it was just arcade games that were popular at that point, some snes games, and some ps1 games in Japan.

Imagine "gaming" being just donkey kong, street fighter, mario, and contra, and a ps1 cost $300 usd.

"Gaming" then was about as popular as virtual reality now.

[–] Ashtear@piefed.social 2 points 6 days ago

First year recorded.

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