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[–] tae_glas@slrpnk.net 114 points 1 month ago (6 children)

between measles and covid, there are a lot of people walking around who are immuno-compromised now & don't even know it yet, beyond a vague idea that they don't remember being sick so often before a few years ago.

i really hope that the us swings away from fascism & eugenics and moves towards things like free healthcare asap, because it really doesn't have to be like this.

the huge cheers from all sides for the death of a healthcare ceo really shows that there are basic needs like healthcare & housing & UBI that have broad support, far beyond what culture war BS would have people believe, imo.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

free healthcare asap,

Treason!

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[–] saltnotsugar@lemmy.world 82 points 1 month ago (4 children)

This is part of a larger anti intellectual issue that has been plaguing the U.S. for decades.

[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 94 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I have always related to this Isaac Asimov quote from 1980:

There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

my favorite part of lemmy is when i cite a government source and get told that it's wrong or doesn't apply or is fake.

because feelings are all that matters, apparently.

[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

If it's a source like the trump FDA, it probably is wrong, though...

For example, Tylenol does not cause autism.

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 4 points 1 month ago

And like that Trump made government documents less trustworthy and thus useless as a source… great job, trump-voters! You have made your life worse.

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[–] protist@mander.xyz 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

I know it's easy to shit on the US, but the per capita measles infection rate is higher in many EU countries than it is in the US right now. France, for example, had 744 cases from Jan-Jul of this year, Spain had 339, and the Netherlands had 474.

US: 5.6 cases per million
France: 11.2 cases per million
Spain: 6.9 cases per million
Netherlands: 25.6 cases per million

And this includes several more months of data for the US than the other countries

Source: European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

Very interesting. I had a look at Ireland. Here's the historical graph

Our lowest was 2015 where it was 0.4 cases per million or just two cases for the whole year. Generally it's hovering around 10x to 15x that with most of the cases among adult men.

I've never actually heard of anyone with measles here. The health agency does follow up rigourously if your kid misses the vaccine in school because they were out that day or whatever.

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[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 60 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I can’t believe Biden personally injected these people with measles.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 month ago

I'm Canadian even, and I've often spotted Joe Biden lurking around my home, hiding behind the bushes. He often carries a syringe full of what I can only assume is some deadly disease or another, and a large burlap sack with a question mark on it.

I've noticed Joe Biden stealing jobs from my neighbours, which he places into the burlap sack, as well as money, babies, and other various items.

I try to avoid him, and have thus far been successful, but I fear that one day he'll either steal my job or infect me with some deadly disease.

[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Thanks Obama!

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago

He took them behind the barn. The rest he infected by using FEMA to poison the water supply.

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[–] protist@mander.xyz 42 points 1 month ago (1 children)

While this is awful, it's also cherry-picked data. There were 1,274 cases in 2019, and 667 cases in 2014, for example. Last year in 2024 there were only 285.

I suspect 2020, which had the lowest measles infection rate in the US in all of recorded history, was so low only due to covid and people isolating much of the year.

[–] normanwall@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

1912 / 285 = ~6.7

So yes it's cherry picked data but totals are at 670+% of last year and the year isn't finished yet

RFK is going to end up causing a pandemic of something eventually and will go down in history for it

[–] protist@mander.xyz 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

When you look at the variability in cases per year over the past 20 years, it's clear you can't tie this back to one person. He's a total idiot who is going to make things worse, for sure, but the anti-vaccination movement on both the left and right predates his involvement in politics by many years

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[–] konomi@piefed.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So sick of living on clown planet.

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[–] gigastasio@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 month ago

Also Fox News: “We did this!”

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 month ago

Look at Fox News bragging.

[–] Blubber28@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Idiots! Percent only goes up to one hundred, dummies. Big pharma isn't even hiding it anymore...

  • antivaxxers right now, probably
[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I know you’re clowning, but don’t forget that the actual fucking President of the United States tried to claim that drug prices were down 700% just earlier this month and that gullible swamp of sycophants just gobbled it up.

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[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Because the U.S. is now the country where the surgeon general of the Louisiana Department of Health can cause a whooping cough outbreak in Louisiana, get caught by local journalists trying to cover up the deaths of infants that occured, and then instead of being fired in disgrace from his state level job, he's promoted to number 2 at the CDC.

You know how it's SOP in any merit based field where you really fucked up at the state level, and they send you off to do the same at a national level.

https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/11/25/nx-s1-5620991/louisiana-surgeon-general-ralph-abraham-cdc-deputy

[–] Shamber@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It happens when you abandon the actual science that God gave us to help humanity , and think that a shaman who's constantly gagging on cock knows better, and call this a devine religion, while inbread evangelical pedos cheering him on to keep gobbling

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

God didn't give humanity science lol. It's abandoning science for a god that put people in the bad spot.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I see myself as mostly atheistic mixed with agnostic, and I think that you are missing an important point here.

I absolutely agree that saying that God gave humanity science is incorrect.

However, consider the end goal, it should be to have more people embrace science or at a minimum embrace scientific data, right?

If that is the case, then I think we can make an argument that while God didn't give humanity science, he did create us in his image (according to the bible), we can use that to say that not only did he create our physical appearance in his image, but also our brains, giving us reasoning, which we used to develop the sciences.

Thus embracing science could be argued means using our God given brains, and from that science is the ultimate achievement of God.

Rejecting science in this context means throwing away the gift God gave you.


This turned out way more philosophical and theological than I thought, but it is an interesting discussion.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It happens when you abandon the actual science that God gave us to help humanity ,

Fucking nonsense. Let it go man, it's fairy tales. It's the exact magical thinking that leads to measles outbreaks.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have no doubt that since this is on Fox News that Dems are somehow to blame.

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[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

The answer to the OP's question is “this is what happens when stupid people elect a stupid president who appoints stupid health officials.”. The cure is simple, stupid people can't vote or at least stupid people can't be candidates.

[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

The biggest problem is money in politics. Money means rich people get their way.

They want people just smart enough to press buttons on the rich person's factory floor but stupid enough to vote how rich person's news channel tells them to vote.

There are probably enough people that aren't so stupid that you could educate them enough to vote in their interests if you can get to them against all odds. You just have to get through the social media algorithms and mass media blockade that are completely against change that would hurt their owners profit.

[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Who's going to decide who is smart and who is stupid?

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[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The cure is simple, stupid people can’t vote or at least stupid people can’t be candidates.

How democratic of you.

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[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago

I wish other countries would ban muricans at the airport due to them posing a health hazard...

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, but how is this biden’s fault?

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[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

RFK Jr would blame on people reading poetry or something like that. Probably just reading in general.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

there's this study that tells you that reading corrupts your neuron pathways in the brain. Don't do it, man! Keep the sanctity of your brain's neuron pathways intact!

[–] Kepion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago

🎵Not very long ago, just before your time...🎵

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

“Autism causes measles, obviously, and Tylenol causes autism, so, ipso facto, Tylenol causes measles. Duh, it’s all so simple”

I’ll just put /s right down here…

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago
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