Not using turn signal? Straight to jail.
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it was probably more the lack of a driving license that did it, but ofc the headline leaves that out
Nah, it was the driving while black and foreign born around bigots with unchecked power.
well, driving while black is what got him pulled over. then the rest is what got him arrested
the rest is what got him arrested
Nah, that was mostly the Jamaica thing. And also the driving while black.
You're not going to see a white guy be deported for driving without a license in Trump's America, except MAYBE Ukrainians once they run out of nonwhite people to victimize and Miller's quotas still aren't fulfilled.
that was included in my "the rest", yes
Lmao, Conyers GA is 70% black. They're going to keep themselves quite busy if they only pull over people for driving while black.
The county Conyers is in is also majority black.
Honestly I wouldn't make this one a race issue. These small GA towns just keep cops posted at every entry and exit point to town. Their job is to ticket everything and generate revenue.
Conyers GA is 70% black
How much you want to bet that the PD is still majority white, Ferguson style?
The county Conyers is in is also majority black
So was Apartheid South Africa 🤷
wouldn't make this one a race issue
small GA towns
🤔
Their job is to ticket everything and generate revenue.
And whether they're told to or not, I guarantee that they're disproportionately targeting black people.
And whether they're told to or not, I guarantee that they're disproportionately targeting black people.
To be proportional to population for every 10 people they pull over 7 would be black.
As to your points the city council is split between white/black evenly. Chief of police is white but no other information about the force was available. At the county level out of the 3 commissioners 1 is black, and honestly not sure about the race of the other 2. Interestingly all 3 are women. The sheriff and sheriff's department are majority black. This isn't apartheid South Africa.
I really doubt this one was a race issue at the point of the initial stop. Like I said these small towns are notorious for stopping everyone for every minor traffic infraction. They just want your money. Have you ever spent any time in the state and towns like these or are you just manufacturing issues for your argument?
It was actually the fascist policies enacted by the trumpist extremists in power.
That still doesn't usually land you in jail, much less an overcrowded detention center with no oversight or accountability with the threat that you will be removed from the country, possibly to somewhere you have never been and have no connection to.
This is so heart breaking and shameful, I don’t believe America as a concept anymore, and I say that as an American. The things the US military does are blasphemy to humanity, and not all the participants are saints, but in principle if someone is willing to die for a country. They should be allowed to live there.
Nations shouldn’t exist, we’re all just people
This and much more is why I despised GWB, but Trump has somehow managed to be exponentially worse.
Somehow, we went for a couple centuries with no ICE, but we just couldn't get supersonic jets to respond to two subsonic passenger jets in spite of years of warning.
Sounds like we should have bought more city air defenses instead of ICE, don't we have missiles to shoot down planes to protect our largest cities? Seriously, isn't that pretty basic? Am I stupid?
The private for profit company that runs the detention center
The US must be razed to the ground and sowed with salt
Before I say this, ICE is awful and driving without a license shouldn't be a deportable offense. Also, military service should give automatic citizenship.
I feel like this article is leaving something out. How did ICE get involved in this? I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if they got involved simply because they saw a record of a non-citizen getting arrested but I'm wondering if he didn't renew his green card or something.
I'm not arguing that this guy deserves to be deported (I think he should be a citizen) but I do wish we got the whole story on things.
The beginnings of a US based KZ system.
I shed my blood for this country
he was primarily stationed in Germany
Hmm 🤔
Yeah it’s not like a lot of our veterans were stationed outside of the US or anything
Hey, eight years as a grunt ain’t nothin’. It’s still a disgrace he gets treated like this (it’s obviously a disgrace anyone gets treated like this, but the republiQan mindset used to at least support veterans with pretty words. Now they din’t think of them at all.)
You were a useful idiot spreading capitalism by a red white and blue sword.
traffic control uber alles, finally!
- signed, A. Pedestrian /s
Okay, what is happening to him is a humanitarian crisis, but they arrested him for driving without a license, not because he missed a turn signal.
What ICE is doing is abhorrent. We don't need to exaggerating and/or lie to make horrifying headlines marginally worse.
Edit - Jesus christ, you all have some real issues with connotation, huh? Yes, he was pulled over for a turn signal, which set off the chain of events, but the intention of the headline is to connect the mostly innoculous act of forgetting to signal to the resulting deportation, when that is blatantly not the case. All the "UMMM, ACKSHUALLY, THIS REALLY DID HAPPEN" completely misses the point here.
Fuck me for refusing to just let it slide when media uses intentionally misleading titles to invoke extreme reactions for engagement, I guess.
Okay, what is happening to him is a humanitarian crisis, but they arrested him for driving without a license, not because he missed a turn signal.
Technically true, but the turn signal was an excuse to pull him over, it's not like they knew he didn't have a license. At the same time, is he able to get a license without legal status? He has lived in the country for 50 years, but these technicalities are what give the excuse to deport him.
It can be argued "the law is the law" but what kind of society are we trying to achieve by enforcing these technicalities (while also permitting the corruption and outright illegal acts of the president)? It's a case that highlights the broken (intentional or otherwise) system of legal status within this country and how it's used to exercise control over people's lives.
how did they initiate a stop?
I imagine it was by using their sirens.
God I wish they'd actually pull over people for not turn signaling instead of just as an excuse to deport a black person
Anyone who want to be baited are worse than those who are unknowingly baited.
When the goal is to be upset then there is no reason to take action.
That is, until September, when he was pulled over in Conyers, Georgia, for failing to use a turn signal, which was when police discovered he was driving without a license and arrested him.
I mean. I dunno what to tell you.
The headline implied the turn signal is the problem and he's an angel besides that. It might have started the police interaction but it is not the whole thing. Anyone scanning the headline is going to only get a half truth.
Still don't think driving without a license is deport worthy, but it's a much bigger violation and the real heart.
NGL it is a problem, because who tf gets pulled over for failure to signal? It's just an excuse to pull someone over for DWB.
Where I'm from (still in US) just about anyone, no matter race, will get pulled over for it. Especially near schools or hospitals. Now, are they doing it to fulfill there supposedly non-existent ticket quota? That I'd believe.
Gotcha. Around here (also US) it's just an excuse to pull over certain people. It's used very selectively. TBH I wish they would enforce it equitably, there is a ton of people in this area that never use their turn signal
Basically anyone in rural Georgia. Those cops don't have a lot to do. That's why whenever you're passing through a small town you have to drive perfectly or you will get pulled over.
These small towns keep people posted on either side of town just to write tickets for minor infractions
Bless you for reading.
Turns out most people are so used to intentionally misleading headlines that they'll actively defend them based on the "well technically" truths.
He wouldn't have been pulled over in the first place if he not failed to signal.
Can you imagine being pulled over every time you fail to signal? A lot of times people don't signal when they're in a turn-only lane because it's obvious they're going to turn, but technically that can be used as an excuse to pull them over.
Gotta wonder how many of these trained, blooded combat veterans are going to take this abuse laying down.
ICEHOLES: Cover your faces, cover your asses as your time is very nearly almost up!!!