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The whole thing about Americans causing housing crunches is absolutely ridiculous. The total number of Americans in Spain is something like 68k, and many of them can be assumed to live together or with Spanish spouses who would need housing themselves, so the impact on housing is a rounding error.

Another thing to remember is that a lot of these Americans in Spain are children of Spanish citizens that were born in the US to avail of US citizenship, which is not uncommon in families with the means to do it.

You are not oppressing anyone if you move to a new country and make an effort to integrate, follow their laws, and leave the country cleaner and better than you found it, or don't leave the country and begin to contribute to its tax base and social system as soon as you can do so.

Source: American trying to integrate in France.

If you bring lots of money there are quite a few countries that are just fine with Americans showing up.

Also, quite a few countries are welcoming if you expend the multi-year effort to assimilate and contribute, and definitely not waste people’s time with unsolicited comparisons between their country and your former homeland.

Do you feel oppressed by the immigrants who live in your country?

I think you're buying into the right-wing idea that simply being an immigrant is somehow a form of oppression.

Immigrants are not to blame for the housing crisis. The housing crisis facing much of the world has to do with a growing population, a lack of housing development, and a market that treats housing like little more than an investment asset.

I moved to Canada and have only felt welcomed. The trick is to not be an asshole, give people a reason to want to be your friend.

As an American I've been living in the UK for almost 5 years now, and I can safely say I've never met anyone who hates America as much as me. 💪🏻

Correction: I have met other Americans who might.

Immigrants that accept that they are immigrants or self-described expats?

As long as you don't try to make your surroundings a mini-'Murica you should be fine everywhere in Europe.

Hey, yup!

I've been traveling for 15 years in 30 countries and most people are very receptive to respectful American tourists, especially if you take an interest in the culture and learn the standard greeting. They love it if you like the food, which i am very good at!

Everyone asks where I'm from, and nobody is upset when I tell them the US.

In vietnam, they love it because they kicked our ass in the war.

Moved to Germany. I feel very welcome here. Theres a very similar political problem growing in Germany, several large political parties that either want things to get only slightly better or a lot worse, and a growing fascist party that wants to enrich themselves by hurting other people. But it doesn't feel close to the tipping point like the US is, so I still recommend it.

I always feel welcome, except for a drunk white German here and there yelling at me for not knowing the language (I'm working on it, but languages have always been hard for me).

There's a housing crisis everywhere and immigrants are not the problem, it's the fact that housing is a financial investment vehicle and the wealthy are only getting wealthier while most everyone else is getting poorer. You're not oppressing people by moving to their country and paying taxes. You're the villain if you dodge taxes, are a landlord (and aren't fighting to tear down the current housing system), or have 5 million+ and aren't fighting to help people and fix the system.

You mean "US immigrants" ? Housing is expansive because of tourism, speculation and secondary house; not immigration. If yo want to not spread oppressions, get along with organization that fight the rise of fascism where you are going, and helping people oppressed by the US state in US and elsewhere. Do not think you helping the people you are joining in avoiding their struggles. This is yours now

The people? No. Their money? Yes.

If you spend big in a community, you'll be treated well, you'll be an 'expat'.

If you're poor, you're an immigrant and you are ruining the count.

Are you American left, southern Europe left, eastern Europe left, or northern Europe left?

It depends

In Australia, we're happy to have people come here who will contribute to our society

Trump supporters aren't liked here, and we have great sympathy for people moving here from 'Murica to get away from the bullshit

My fiancée is from the US, and we're working on her visa

There are amazing opportunities here, particularly if you are interested in living outside of the big cities like Melbourne and Sydney

Never had any problems with Americans anywhere.

Portugal dislikes all immigration because it has ruined their housing market and made it impossible for natives to buy homes at their salary level.

Maybe its Americans buying houses but they dont really dislike Americans as people. They just want their home country to work for people who live there.

Albania LOVES Americans. There's a bunch of history that boils down to America helped make Albania and Kosovo exist. There are statues here of a bunch of former US presidents. Americans even get better visas than anyone else. It's a 1 year automatic visa on arrival. If you don't apply for a residency permit in that year, you have to leave for 90 days, then you can stay for another year.

Albania is still developing. Everything has a little more friction than in the US. Quick examples; no Amazon, no real freeways, no drive thrus. The bureaucracy is very much like "papers please". There aren't a lot of local jobs. The language is hard to learn fluently, but it's possible to get by day to day with a few phrases and Google translate.

The people are amazing. The food is great. The entire country is beautiful. If you stay out of Tirana, rent is really affordable. Every time you meet someone, they'll ask why you're here because everyone wants to move to America.

I mean i dont mind americans per se, more so do i dislike the loudness and disrespect they often bring. But speaking as partner of an imigrant living in germany, jobmarket is hard even for natives. And you need to be fluent in german

I like the few Americans I know in Australia.

If you get a job and pay your taxes Scandinavian countries most people don't mind.

I'd aim for countries that have few American immigrants, like Eastern Europe, South America, anywhere but Thailand and Japan in Asia... Of course avoid those actively hostile to Americans.

Alternatively somewhere English-speaking so you'd barely stand out - Canada, UK, Australia

Actually most countries in the world have little American immigration. Avoid Spain, Portugal, Mexico, Thailand, Japan, most small Caribbean countries (I guess). The stereotypical "expat" places.

It's like any kind of immigration. A small number is always welcome, but once many immigrants of the same origin come you get social cohesion issues.

You won’t oppress anybody

What you said sounds like so be far right thing about immigrants stealing people’s housing

Speaking as an immigrant wannabe who personally investigated a lot on this... not ones that I'm aware of. At least I don't know any countries that are both 1) what I'd imagine most Americans are willing to relocate to, and 2) have preferential or at least very "easy" paths for immigration for Americans. Maybe there are some for those with a "lucky" ancestry, but from my understanding that's it

Netherlands technically "appreciates" American immigrants because of the DAFT, but that doesn't really answer the question... NL isn't that easy to move to, and from what I've heard a lot of people don't end up making it on DAFT. Their job market is a bit screwed-up at the moment and they have a very significant housing shortage as well

Still, I think there are lots of countries that welcome aspiring immigrants who have in-demand skills (and some, with significant wealth), as long as one is willing to adapt to that particular new country/culture. If one is competent in a language that is not English that list grows even longer

I think there are lots of posts on this on r/AmerExit and r/IWantOut... lots of delusional posts, but a good bit of not-so-delusional ones too