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cross-posted from: https://news.abolish.capital/post/12189

Venture capitalist Joe Lonsdale, a co-founder of data platform company Palantir, is calling for the return of public hangings as part of a broader push to restore what he describes as "masculine leadership" to the US.

In a statement posted on X Friday, Lonsdale said that he supported changing the so-called "three strikes" anti-crime law to ensure that anyone who is convicted of three violent crimes gets publicly executed, rather than simply sent to prison for life.

"If I’m in charge later, we won’t just have a three strikes law," he wrote. "We will quickly try and hang men after three violent crimes. And yes, we will do it in public to deter others."

Lonsdale then added that "our society needs balance," and said that "it's time to bring back masculine leadership to protect our most vulnerable."

Lonsdale's views on public hangings being necessary to restore "masculine leadership" drew swift criticism.

Gil Durán, a journalist who documents the increasingly authoritarian politics of Silicon Valley in his newsletter "The Nerd Reich," argued in a Saturday post that Lonsdale's call for public hangings showed that US tech elites are "entering a more dangerous and desperate phase of radicalization."

"For months, Peter Thiel guru Curtis Yarvin has been squawking about the need for more severe measures to cement Trump's authoritarian rule," Durán explained. "Peter Thiel is ranting about the Antichrist in a global tour. And now Lonsdale—a Thiel protégé—is fantasizing about a future in which he will have the power to unleash state violence at mass scale."

Taulby Edmondson, an adjunct professor of history, religion, and culture at Virginia Tech, wrote in a post on Bluesky that the rhetoric Lonsdale uses to justify the return of public hangings has even darker intonations than calls for state-backed violence.

"A point of nuance here: 'masculine leadership to protect our most vulnerable' is how lynch mobs are described, not state-sanctioned executions," he observed.

Theoretical physicist Sean Carroll argued that Lonsdale's remarks were symbolic of a kind of performative masculinity that has infected US culture.

"Immaturity masquerading as strength is the defining personal characteristic of our age," he wrote.

Tech entrepreneur Anil Dash warned Lonsdale that his call for public hangings could have unintended consequences for members of the Silicon Valley elite.

"Well, Joe, Mark Zuckerberg has sole control over Facebook, which directly enabled the Rohingya genocide," he wrote. "So let’s have the conversation."

And Columbia Journalism School professor Bill Grueskin noted that Lonsdale has been a major backer of the University of Austin, an unaccredited liberal arts college that has been pitched as an alternative to left-wing university education with the goal of preparing "thoughtful and ethical innovators, builders, leaders, public servants and citizens through open inquiry and civil discourse."


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[–] TrustedFeline@hexbear.net 75 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Tech entrepreneur Anil Dash warned Lonsdale that his call for public hangings could have unintended consequences for members of the Silicon Valley elite.

waow-based

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 39 points 2 months ago
[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 72 points 2 months ago (4 children)
[–] BabyTurtles@hexbear.net 39 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Great foreshadowing to the twist ending.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago

Neck twist ending?

[–] Nasalstrip@hexbear.net 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Holy shit is this real 😭😭

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago

Dude was a visionary.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago
[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Everyone is 12 now.

The literal raison d’etre for chuds is “soooooo hardcore!” They will gladly usher in the apocalypse if they think it will make them look badass.

Tell these people to go to the gym and learn a martial art like normal people when they have something to prove.

[–] lib1@hexbear.net 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Kirk stole this bit from Carlin, who wrote it in 1996. Except Carlin was talking about executing “white middle class Republican bankers”

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[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 59 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This guy has done exponentially more harm to society than someone who has done three muggings.

Theoretical physicist Sean Carroll argued that Lonsdale's remarks were symbolic of a kind of performative masculinity that has infected US culture.

"Immaturity masquerading as strength is the defining personal characteristic of our age," he wrote.

“Everyone is 12” theory vindicated once more.

[–] MiraculousMM@hexbear.net 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Immaturity masquerading as strength is the defining personal characteristic of our age

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

At this point forget the arguments. Mock every nazi as just an internet tough guy.

Bring back “we got a badass over here” memes.

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

This is always the correct answer. "Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies."

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

performative masculinity that has infected US culture

In the sense that water has infected the Pacific Ocean, I suppose.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 46 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Even the most backwater places in the world don't carry out public hangings. The only time public execution is a necessary evil is where state has completely and totally broken down and a military faction is trying to assert themselves as the new state. Once you've asserted control and become the state you can do them quietly and with a legitimacy that doesn't drive people towards carrying out revenge acts.

Immaturity masquerading as strength

Insecurity masquerading as strength. All of these people are deeply insecure and screaming for attention and validation. They massively overcompensate for their own feelings of inadequacy.

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

These people have zero engagement with society at large or other people, they probably only know public executions are something the cool frontier justice in media is shown. They have no idea about how to govern because they have never had anyone be openly antagonistic to them.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah it's frontier justice because the frontier has almost no fucking state. It's an act used to reinforce a weak state that needs to assert itself loudly or else people will not listen to it. It's an act carried out when people are genuinely following "be ungovernable". It's an act of force to enforce governing by a faction laying claim to an area.

There is absolutely no reason to do public executions in an area where the state is already basically fully recognised as controlling the area and people do not generally try to assert a different organisational structure's claim to governing its people. You carry out public executions when you want people to see that you have the power to do it and the other organisations do not have the power to stop it, therefore you are the supreme power.

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago

Yeah but they feel like the country is in near-insurrection because they aren't being sufficiently worshipped.

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

I agree, but they're proudly ignorant of that fact, on top of their whole ideology being based around causing suffering, rather than maintaining control or anything internally consistent.

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

I figure if the person being executed is notorious enough it could be useful to prove they're actually dead but you could just parade the body through the streets

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Funny enough, public executions used to be routine in a lot of societies e.g. medieval Europe. I wonder why it changed.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

Weak states asserting themselves over and over again due to the high potential for rebellion. Local Lords needed to constantly assert their power because their control and the total resources they wielded was actually tenuous at best. Without doing so the people could have asserted governing themselves or some ambitious person could have driven them to rebellion for their own ambition to become the local lord.

You don't hear of situations where the local populations were self governing having to assert themselves through such acts. It's when state power asserted itself that it began.

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 46 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] 10TH_OF_SEPTEMBER_CALL@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Oooor - and I'm just gonna put it there -

trebuchets

It's very humane because who wouldn't like to spend one's last moments flying. Plus it's poetic.

[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Well, Elon, you said you wanted to go to Mars. Let's send you there"

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 46 points 2 months ago

Tech entrepreneur Anil Dash warned Lonsdale that his call for public hangings could have unintended consequences for members of the Silicon Valley elite.

gui yes-hahaha-yes-1

[–] Kefla@hexbear.net 40 points 2 months ago

Hell yeah let's do it. I know exactly who to start with catgirl-smug

[–] 3rdWorldCommieCat@hexbear.net 40 points 2 months ago

Can we start with him pls

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 33 points 2 months ago
[–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 33 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Well I know who we can start with

[–] spacecadet@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

It's like 10,000 spoons when all you need is [redacted]

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago

Dude looks like a creepypasta

[–] NuraShiny@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago

Let's hang him and then abandon the practice.

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago

at this point, they've got to be deliberately avoiding Discipline and Punish. this would demonstrably not have the effect they intend. it's a deliberate threat to transition from being disappeared into state-sponsored slavery as punishment for "crime" to public execution as punishment for "crime." and if that's the situation, you're going to see the second coming of the BPP much quicker than you currently can expect. the sum population of the u.s. are currently docile, with no significant anti-state militias or militant movements. i don't think this can possibly continue in the face of a flood of images of violent public hangings.

[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

Well fuck me sideways that's um. Sheesh.

[–] RiotDoll@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

i wanna hang these weird aesir wannabes upside down to dangle for however long their spirits can stay attached to their bodies.

[–] OffSeasonPrincess@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

Sometimes men who are getting hanged will get hard while they die. I assume thats what he means by "masculine"

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

Gender-affirming barbarism.

[–] Tychoxii@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago
[–] D61@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

me listening for the sounds of a flying boomerang

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago

Okay, you first.

Why do they all act like they want to be the vigilante victim in comic books?

Let's bring back quartering by horse for graverobbing