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[–] Aliktren@lemmy.world 60 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

They arent alone, eu, uk, the nordics. canada, australia, japan, taiwan, and a bunch of other nations all have common cause

[–] Quittenbrot@feddit.org 30 points 12 hours ago

And even the EU alone does not need to hide from the US. Including the other countries shifts it even more.

It is the US that is becoming more and more alone, especially if we finally do our homework and realise our potential.

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

And with a "friend" like today's usa we don't need enemies

[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

They arent alone

Yes agreed , it's been imo dramatically portrayed as we have been overly dependant on the US to take the lead after WWII. They were able to cut through most internal divisions, and now its enterily up to us.

Time to feel more confident and step out in the World, not as post-WWII Europe or an infant sucking at anyone's tits, but as self conscious and aware Union with it's own character, values and way of life.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

How about falling to fascism and alignment with Russia or the USA, one country at a time? The process of undermining European democracy internally is already well underway.

[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

How about falling

Yeah how about that? The rise of Facism is most certainly not uniquely a European problem for starters, they are growing roots everywhere There is a whole worldwide culture war going on.

The undermining of Europe has existed for a long while now actually; let's say since after the construction of the Berlin wall. The difference now is that's concentrated in the resurgence of the extreme right, also it seems more widespread , and the last years the efforts by US and or RF and CCP have intensified.

In a very weird way Europe should really thank the UK for the Brexit. If that event hadn't shook Europe to it's core, the anti-EU lobby would now have had a much stronger grip.

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

What about Africa? There's a lot to gain in Africa. It's not all war and corruption, there's plenty of oppertunity to grow business relations. With Europe's declining worker population and Africa's growing population, it might be a good idea to look at emigration or outsourcing opportunities there.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 17 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Due to the colonial history most of Africa isn't particularly fond of Europe. And modern France being insensitive on the issue certainly didn't help this lately.

[–] Tuuktuuk@piefed.ee 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

What European countries should do is to make a big noise about how the Russia is a colonial empire. There are tens and tens of cultures living under the Russia's fist, without rights to rule their lands and with all their natural resources extracted for the colonizing country's use, leaving almost nothing in the colony itself.

The Russia is just the same as France used to be, and what France still partially is. It is ridiculous that anti-colonialists in Africa end up supporting the only colonial empire that has never done the least to free its colonies even to a small extent.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Very few in Africa are under any sort of illusions about Russia. They just play both sides for their own benefit.

And it is anyways China that has a much bigger influence these days in many African countries.

[–] Tuuktuuk@piefed.ee 1 points 9 hours ago

Very few what in Africa are under any sort of illusions about the Russia?

I would say that regarding the people ruling those countries you are either correct or mostly correct, but regarding the general public... I would be surprised if things were as you say. Europe has done nothing about it, the Russia has done a lot about it. How could they have a realistic view of the Russia when nobody is doing anything whatsoever to counter the Russian propaganda anywhere on the whole continent?

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 0 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Yet what they all have in common primarily is that their population is majorily made up by morons. And so they all happily vote for right-wing populists preaching "nationalist interests" and "souvereignity" over common cause and blaming someone else for the problems they actively cause to enrich themselves.

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 12 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

No, "they" are not alone because those "Europeans" discussed here are not on Europe's side but exclusively their own.

Just like the <1% everywhere else they will simply throw the population under the bus to be on the authoritarians good side as one of them.

Are we -the European populations- alone? Yes, very much so. But that's okay because propaganda-induced brain-damage is for a long time preventing us from even recognizing reality. So we will happily keep voting people into power that are only there to enrich themselves and their buddies while blaming imaginary scape goats... immigrants in most cases still, then LGBTQ+ -as we can see in those countries without relevant immigration already-, probably followed by everyone with another political opinion (if history is any indication), then intellectuals in general because people still thinking on their own -even if they keep quiet- are a risk. And once we reached the "random people have to be the scape goat today"-stage they will all cry out and ask how it could have come that far.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 hours ago

Yup. This idea of geographical, ideological alignments or lack thereof between blocs or countries entirely misses what's actually going on. It's why it's rarely revealing and it fails to create useful predictions. Instead I find that looking at the owner class as acting against the working classes domestically and internationaly provides a much better picture of the world.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 15 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

European fascists aren't alone, though, and that's the issue.

[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It's really becoming a "ideological worldwar" or something. Supposedly there a three geospheres and the main topic is democracy versus autocracy.

[–] plyth@feddit.org -2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Which democracy is not a masked autocracy where the rich control politics?

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 14 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'll take a EU-style "masked autocracy" over an overt autocracy like Russia any day.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago

or whatever disgusting mess the US is sleepwalking into...