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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 3 points 9 minutes ago

They’re just people who are too weak and dumb to have real opinions and they just want to be in the in crowd

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

It's because we lefties say completely justified mean things about so-called 'centrists', and criticizing the literal record of centrism is tantamount to insulting a centrist's identity.

The centrists made up the term so they wouldn't have to face the fact that they're conservatives.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 1 points 55 minutes ago (1 children)

That's right, the centrists are conservatives and the so-called "conservatives" are really regressives at best, plenty of them fascists.

[–] fishy@lemmy.today 1 points 3 minutes ago

We don't just call everyone we don't like fascists. But uh, them folks are fascists.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 16 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

You vote left because you want the best for the general good of society, you vote right because you want what's best for yourself, in particular.

[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 3 points 20 minutes ago

Plenty of people also vote right based on hate and fear. They'll vote against there own best interests because of hate and fear.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 44 minutes ago

They vote right because cable news told them it's best for themselves. It's not.

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You vote right because you want the people you don't like to suffer.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 1 points 23 minutes ago

I don't believe this. People may have multiple agendas. They may hate foreigners or cultures, but people's allegiances are always first and foremost to their own, to keep living in the most comfortable way they can with the lowest possible eftort. It's kind of game theoretical in some sense.

Game theory occupies itself with the adversary roles of generosity (a moral principle) and calculation (a purely rational one), and in some way you could say that in a system which only allows one of two outcomes, a lot of assumptions are subsumed under those two separate outcomes.

What if Candidate A is for lower taxes, higher immigration and Candidate B is for higher taxes and lower immigration?

What if both candidates agree on lower taxes and lower immigration, but one of them also proposes reinstating slavery, and the other one wants none of it but instead mandatory abortions?

In a two party state you don't get enough fine grained resolution to deal with problems that require any complexity beyond perfectly white and perfectly black.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 17 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

The sad thing is, that's not even true.

Most poor world be better off under left wing ideals, yet they vote right wing anyway because they're scared that brown people will steal their crumbs.

[–] Cliff@lemmy.world 1 points 14 minutes ago* (last edited 12 minutes ago)

(But actually that guy in the middle doesn't just have this plate full of cookies. He owns a huge vessel full of cookies)

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 1 points 34 minutes ago

It is true for the general disposition. Do you vote in your own interests vs do you vote in the general best interest. Your motivations may be malicious or incompetent, a two party system doesn't discern.

[–] Denvil@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

But rich white men stealing their crumbs is fine because they aren't brown

Better than than Jose over there, a hard working fine gentleman, getting his needs met

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 1 points 34 minutes ago

Good bars man

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

But rich white men stealing their crumbs is fine because they don't realize it's happening

ftfy

[–] Kamsaa@lemmy.world 62 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

That's not far left IMO, that's just left. This is a recurring problem we have in France too, where medias call "far left" parties that are just left. This is a slippery slope, the one on which Overton window slips towards the (far) right...

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 45 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Far left is: "We're going to destroy the very concept of private ownership and wealth accumulation"

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 24 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (15 children)

"... to meet everyone's basic needs"

[–] Nikelui@lemmy.world 17 points 7 hours ago (7 children)

"..."
"To meet everyone's basic needs, right?"

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[–] SpicyLizards@reddthat.com 4 points 6 hours ago

Libertarians: ME!!!

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