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I say this as someone who actively criticizes Nintendo and refuses to buy their hardware after years of anti-consumer nonsense: Some of the Metroid Prime 4 discourse has gone completely off the rails.

There’s a difference between legitimate criticism and whatever this new wave of reactionary negativity is. And Prime 4 has become the perfect example of the latter.

Nintendo Fans/haters are in one of these 2

Toxic Positivity:

“You’re not allowed to criticize anything.”

Toxic Negativity:

“You’re not allowed to like anything.”

Both shut down actual conversation. Both punish nuance. Both lead to low-effort, shallow takes.

which THEN leads to something as harmless as A scene of soldier being excited to meet Samus, the most FAMOUS bounty hunter in-universe getting elevated to “METROID IS DEAD, RETRO IS INFECTED BY MARVEL WRITERS, CORPORATE NIGHTMARE.”

It’s no longer: “Here are genuine issues with Nintendo.” It’s turning into: “Everything Nintendo does is bad, automatically"

They’re doing reactionary negativity: Bad-faith takes (“NPC = Forspoken writing”), Terminal fandom paranoia (“20 studios worked on it, must be bad!!!!”), Culture war stuff (“Marvel cringe!!”), Doomposting

what used to be calling out anti consumer practices by Nintendo but now is just hating anything with Nintendo tag on it.

You can criticize Nintendo, You can call out bad decisions, You can be skeptical, You can still be excited for Prime 4, You can acknowledge a good thing when you see it.

and most importantly: you can chill the fuck out

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[–] Owl@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I used to be a diehard Metroid fan, but it's been clear for a very long time that the company has no idea what to do with it.

Give Metroid to Fromsoft. Then give whatever they come up with back to Nintendo to rewrite the control scheme.

[–] tombruzzo@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nier Automata era Platinum could have made a bomb ass 3rd person Metroid

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago

We've got Platinum at home.

Platinum at home: Team Ninja

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Meanwhile I'm wondering if it'll run like shit on the original Switch lol

(I'm also hoping the companion characters aren't too distracting, but it's not that big of a deal lol)

[–] Commie_Chameleon@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In a similar vein I’m wondering how the mouse controls are on Switch 2! Curious if Nintendo will put out more stuff that uses that layout. Love the mouse + controller layout when games let me do it on PC.

I bet it runs just fine on Switch 1 though, unless you’re someone that can’t stomach anything less than 60 fps.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I had a leftover game voucher thing that was gifted to me about a year ago, so I'm probably gonna impulse buy it. The dorks on reddit-logo say it's got some gnarly load times on old Switch, but eh. Maybe I should spend the funbux on Pikmin 4 instead, but i-love-not-thinking

[–] Commie_Chameleon@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

I bet Prime 4 will be a good time!! Gamers these days are weak, back in the day you would wait 5 minutes for an Inn to load in Morrowind and you would be HAPPY.

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

which THEN leads to something as harmless as A scene of soldier being excited to meet Samus, the most FAMOUS bounty hunter in-universe getting elevated to “METROID IS DEAD, RETRO IS INFECTED BY MARVEL WRITERS, CORPORATE NIGHTMARE.”

Infected by woke. Next they'll make Samus Aryan a woman.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Given the history of Nintendo and the mythos that comes with that, there’s a lot of Nintendo fanboys that see the modes of the classic games as sacrosanct and to be untouched. So when a new title changes that (Metroid and isolation, in this case) they flip their shit and act like this one little detail completely ruins the game. I find it a bit silly as if anything, Metroid Prime 3 was more of a break from the isolation theme.

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

MP3 was also extremely mid

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I find it a bit silly as if anything, Metroid Prime 3 was more of a break from the isolation theme.

I-was-saying

I hated that aspect of 3 ever since it came out. 1 was the only truly good Metroid Prime.

[–] mononoke@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My unpopular gaming opinion is that I liked 2 when it came out, but I'm not sure if it would still hold up. I'll have to revisit it sometime. 1 is still far and away the best.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago

I thought it was too hard and not in a fun way either, also didn't care for the light and dark ammo system.

[–] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

See also, the petty criticisms of Nintendo reviving the Virtual Boy at all rather than the actual bad aspects of it: tied to subscription service, expensive accessories for it, etc.

[–] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

We need mackenzie as the new smash fighter!

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

Nuanced takes don't get engagement so they disappear in the algorithmic feeds.

[–] towhee@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago

Culture war stuff (“Marvel cringe!!”)

nah this stuff transcends politics, soy dialogue needs to die (said by someone who eats tofu for protein almost exclusively)