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[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

"I don't know why people call me a tankie!"

[simps for Chinese imperialism over Tibet because Mao Good]

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Also, predictably, the link of them being 'attacked' for defending Biden pulling out of Afghanistan is nothing of the sort.

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Bro who the FUCK on Lemmy was upset about pulling out of Afghanistan lmao

These people live in bizarro world

(For what it's worth, I think pulling out of Afghanistan was a clusterfuck, because it was always going to be a clusterfuck because that's what happens when you pull out in the middle of a war. Maybe Biden made it worse in certain ways, maybe Trump tied his hands with certain elements of the deal he made with the Taliban, I honestly don't really know. But regardless, the fact that it was a clusterfuck and did a bunch of damage in the way it was handled and made everyone involved look like morons should always have been an expected part of the proposition of pulling out, which is why no one up until Biden was willing to take the hit to pull the trigger on it and preferred just to keep killing Afghans indefinitely.)

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We had to pull out eventually; we couldn't keep propping up the national government forever. But Trump's deal which released some 5,000 veteran Taliban fighters (with the final offensive consisting of no more than 80,000 Taliban fighters in total), and did so without involving the national government in negotiations at all, sealed the fate of post-war Afghanistan. With the Taliban significantly reinforced and the national government humiliated and stripped of what little legitimacy it had by peace negotiations held without its input, there was no other way it was going to go.

That these tankie fucks positively bootlick the Taliban just makes them more repulsive in light of that.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Blocking .ml outright has made Lemmy far more enjoyable.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

No! Stay and talk with them and make them ban you for saying reasonable things! And then whine about it!

(I am joking, anyone can do what they want, I'm just saying my preferred solution.)

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago

I stay off of .ml comms, but I make note of these fucks when they come into places where non-fascists gather.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

They did ban me for saying reasonable things, then I blocked them. I'm really not here to argue with strangers. I do sometimes, but it's not what I'm here for, and I really just don't need .ml shitting up my feed.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 7 points 1 week ago
[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Wasn't tibet like a slave state before the PLA invaded, though?

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tibet was a feudal society before the PLA invaded, yes.

If the PLA had installed a legitimate government and left, that would be one thing. Putting Tibet under a foreign-imposed regime of settler colonialism, however, is a different question entirely.

If you're asking if I shed tears for the old theocracy, I don't. If you're asking if I think that China 'freed Tibet', or that its occupation is in any way legitimate or anything less than horrific, or the notion that the violation of a country's sovereignty because "The government we overthrew used to own it" is okay, you bet I'm going to be bitterly critical of the PRC.

And furthermore, considering the position stated here, absolute isolationism for the West(tm) (even against brutal backwards theocratic authoritarian states) while cheering on imperialism of other nations because "The Chinese Empire ruled over it so it's their's forever regardless of what the people there think (don't worry, they'll be replaced by CIVILIZED Han folk anyway)" is fucking bizarre.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago

Interesting

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Effectively, yep. I don't think they practiced chattel slavery but they were all personal feudal subjects of the Dalai Lama. Absolute autocratic theocracy, even in exile, until like the 1960s.

[–] Aeao@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Didn’t the disrupt the chain for the dalieh lama? I count that as genocide.