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AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 59 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What framerate can ChatGPT deliver in Cyberpunk 2077?

[–] just2look@lemmy.zip 20 points 4 months ago

Yeah, this seems like a pretty weird take. It doesn't take massive compute power to run a web browser and use a search engine.

Nothing that I built my computer for is related to what an LLM would do for me.

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

The industry is going to move towards stream only games very soon. Stadia failed because it was a small player that tried to early.

That's one of the slippery slopes of always online SP. "If need to be always online anyway, why not just stream the game?"

[–] Lojcs@piefed.social 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah only if cloud gaming was attempted by a big player like Microsoft, Sony, Google or Microsoft..

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It is, and it doesn't have the backlash stadia has. Google is massive, but stadia was a relatively small product that tried to starts already enshitified.

Amazon is creeping slowly with Luna, Sony has many games locked behind stream only (PS now). Do you think they want to be the ones paying for the compute for the goodness of their hearts?

[–] Lojcs@piefed.social 2 points 4 months ago

I didn't know ps had streaming only games. Looking it up it seems to be specifically ps3 titles, which makes sense to me considering that the ps3 cell processor is notoriously hard to emulate.

Online only single player games are able to exist because most people have some sort of a connection all the time and they either don't know or care that the game is connecting to internet when they play.

Cloud gaming is a noticeably worse experience and it has much stricter requirements. I think you underestimate the backlash there would be if the next cod just downloaded a streaming client.

I am concerned that a generation of gamers will sink thousands of dollars into streaming services, end up owning nothing and have a worse experience in the process. I don't know how to prevent that other than giving people financial stability to make smart decisions.

[–] BCOVertigo@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is absolutely the sentiment of executives, which is why it's so hilarious to see the 'friendslop' genre becoming so popular with $20 games like Peak snatching their profits.

In my opinion the best possible version of our immediate future is going to look more like this. Execs fire their talent, and the talent memes them to death.

[–] undeffeined@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

I really hope so

[–] Brosplosion@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago

Stadia failed because it's a flawed concept. Latency is a real thing and running local will always be a better experience.

[–] Lojcs@piefed.social 43 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is a stupid take on so many levels.

  1. There isn't a single PC use case LLMs can replace.
  2. 'Computation' done by an LLM is in no way comparable to a computer.
  3. Existing computers don't become incapacitated because prices rose.
  4. Price increases aren't permanent.
  5. Cloud computing isn't new.
  6. Computers don't need oogles of ram to be capable.

Getting tired of this trend of people cobbling up hot takes from other people's opinions.

[–] watson@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

This is all the result of “fuck you” capitalism

[–] ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What services can LLM-AI providers offer that would otherwise require high RAM usage at home? I feel like people who do home video editing for example aren't going to be asking ChatGPT to be splicing their footage.

[–] cron@feddit.org 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Running a LLM on your own hardware.

[–] ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm way out of the loop on that. Is that more than just a hobby?

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Slow as fuck unless you have a monster rig. Doing a basic job is like rendering a 4K 120 FPS video. Text comes out like an 1890s ticker-tape telegram.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 4 months ago

We will always need some level of edge compute.

But I was there for the heyday of cloud. The need for edge compute was ignored or dismissed.

Ironically, the edge compute we ended up with after everything moved to cloud is very memory-intensive. Hmmm.