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I can't for the life of me find this novel or story by searching the internet using what I remember Will saying about it. But I'm hoping someone here might remember what I'm talking about.

A Chapo episode that was maybe 5-15 months ago included something about AI, and Will went into a pretty lengthy description of a Phillip K. Dick novel or story it reminded him of. In the story benevolent aliens land on Earth, and they're willing and able to essentially make a copy of any objects humans present them with. Because of this humanity basically stops producing anything any other way, from chairs, to wheat, to machine parts. But eventually it becomes clear that the alien copying has a xerox effect, where copying things that were themselves copies produced by the aliens yields a slightly worse result. Humanity realizes this too late, at a time when no one is alive who really knows how to make anything without the aliens, and now the alien copy productions are basically just falling apart or dissolving into sand or something. So humanity has to basically re-start the tech-tree from scratch.

I'm sure I got some major details wrong, but that's as best as I can remember the plot summarized by Will on an episode. Does anyone know the title or have suggestions for other places I could ask? I've done some extensive web searching trying different parts of this, different modifiers, etc.

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[–] take_five_moments@hexbear.net 30 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

damn, never heard of that one. poignan and timely now that the supply and logistics mechanisms of cheap slop are beginning to sputter.

between fast fashion, shitty appliances, and the sheer volume of vinyl-wrapped particle board masquerading as "furniture" in american homes... not only does practically nobody know how to make or fix things, even if they wanted to, they couldn't, really.

everything is made to be carried out into a garbage bin in 3 years, so a big truck can haul it away to places nobody wants to go.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

nobody know how to make or fix things

Just gonna BRAG about my PARTNER here because she's basically taught herself to crochet over the last month and she got some plastic loom thing yesterday and already made a hat with it and i think that's super cool

Anyone reading this it seems like crocheting is doing yarn math so if you like yarn and you like math give it a try

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)
[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

when I told my gf to get a loom that's what I had in mind but nooooo she just got this little plastic dealie, I keep telling her the capitalists are gonna outcompete her but what can you do

[–] Enjoyer_of_Games@hexbear.net 6 points 5 days ago

This is how I imagine the conversation went

i-made-thisspeech-side-small-r-1GET A LOOM!speech-side-small-r-2cereal1

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This is scary to me ngl. A lot of the uncs are retiring soon with nobody to take their places. I opened up a telecommunications book from the 80s the other day and it was insane math that these guys had to learn. I'm extremely fearful of the future

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 7 points 5 days ago

people still learn it and implement it directly in measurement thingies, and then other people make more complicated standards, and on and on it goes.

[–] Sleve_McDichael@hexbear.net 5 points 5 days ago

Phillip K Deez

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 2 points 5 days ago

fry Philip J. Fry....Philip K. Dick