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[–] Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 day ago

Russia can.

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Putin can march his imperialist ass back home.

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Imperialism is when you intervene to stop ethnic cleansing. If China had invaded "Israel" on October 8 of 2023, every bloodthirsty lib would be calling them imperialists.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Why would Russia stop now, when it's near certain that their stated demands will be met either millitarily or via peace concessions?

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or the drug lord of Kiev can just unconditionally surrender.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sadly, slrpnk.net users can't see Grad comments.

[–] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Better for them, if they could they would be really mad right now (I almost replied to them then I remember I want on my .ml account)

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's okay, even my extremely light prodding seems to already be making them mad.

[–] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My go to has been "I see you still live in a fantasy please contact me when you enter reality" It doesn't help the situation but I have not found anything that makes them open to the idea that geopolitics might be simpler than one day russia woke up and chose to invade so they can pack up and go home any day. Or the fact that even if that was true Russia doesn't seem to be planning on doing it so Ukraine needs to sue for peace or get wiped out

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Depends on who you're talking to. Everyone licenses themselves to believe what they think benefits themselves, we do it too. However, some people are forced into more correct positions based on their material conditions, and are more receptive. I think this is just a batch of true believers.

[–] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I cannot disagree with your analysis, I have also seen the level of belivers in Ukraine winning going down, but I ESPECIALLY on line (slightly more success in person) see lots of the true believers...

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think as the war is (at least appearing to be) in its later stages, the true holdouts are increasingly vocal. It's a gradual shift, quantitatively they are decreasing in number but qualitatively they are more outspoken.

[–] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope your right, I could see that being the case but I worry that more people who are not true hold outs are not talking about it as much, but are still disconected from reality

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

The majority still seem to be rejecting reality, but the thing about reality is that it rears its head inevitably.