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Why would Russia stop now, when it's near certain that their stated demands will be met either millitarily or via peace concessions?
Yes? Why do you think peace talks are happening (or at least are being attempted) now?
Big reasons are Trump needs a distraction from Epstein and horrendous economy and Russia's military is falling apart.
Russia still hasn't taken Pokrovsk and the professional core to the Russian military has been obliterated by brutal attrition. All Putin has accomplished is to prove to the world Russia is no longer a military superpower.
This is the best moment Russia will get, the longer they fight the more they will lose, and the losses will be increasingly catastrophic for Russia.
Wow, the propaganda in Finland must be even more unhinged from reality than in the US.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/11/25/8008891/
Lol, you just cited proof Pokrovsk hasn't fell yet, which is downright embarassing for Russia?
How's that Kursk offensive going?
A Ukrainian media outlet’s claims aren’t proof any more than their claims about the Ghost of Kyiv were.
Bring that up with the person who linked it then.
No, this is comically off-base. Ukrainian strongholds are falling one after another, and Pokrovsk is a matter of time. Russia still has a cohesive millitsry, and Ukraine is collapsing internally. Massive corruption scandals are even being reported on by Ukrainian news. Russia is steadily advancing, Ukraine is running out of conscripts and strongholds, I have no idea how you see this as Russia losing.
Russia is not steadily advancing unless you consider a literal snail's pace in exchange for 1000 russian soldiers a day? Even worse, Russian air defenses are crumbling, which you simply cannot fight a war without.
Again, Ukrainian strongholds are falling like dominos and the Russian advance is increasing as of late as a consequence. Russia is steadily making real, material gains, and this is going on while the Banderites in charge in Kiev are shedding support as corruption scandals and years of war taking their toll. There is no option for Ukraine to win this war.
You people have been saying that Russias military is on the brink of collapse for over three years now
Ok those people aren't me, I don't speak for their opinion on it. I am saying the Russian military is unsustainably fighting at this point and the blowback from not having enough armor nor air defense will progressively create more and more decisive opportunities for Ukraine to counterattack, which Ukraine has and will continue to do.
Ok, so when did it change? At what point did it go from all of those people (who aren't you) saying it and being wrong to you saying the exact same thing but being right. When did that change happen and how did you determine it?
Ukraine gaining approximate artillery parity, depletion of Russian armor and Ukrainian deep strike efforts becomingly increasingly devastating to Russian logistics as Russian air defenses/radar are obliterated leaving gaping holes into fragile parts of Russia's war machine in the wake of their destruction (Russia is failing to replace destroyed radar, they don't have the production nor maintenence capability too). The point I identify was somewhere in late summer when it became clear the Russian summer offensive was failing to do anything but take tiny amounts of territory in exchange for shocking losses.
Further Russia is transitioning to indiscriminate flying bomb attacks on civilians which is itself a blatant sign Russia feels it looks too weak on the actual battlefield to project strength and inevitability.
remindme! 90 daysgo for it fool!
You are living in an alternate reality.
Ends justify the means. Got it.
No, I mean saying Russia can just surrender now doesn't actually mean anything. That's like saying oil barons can just stop any time. It isn't a real solution.
"Aggressor packs up and goes home" is about the most meaningful end this three ~~day~~ year operation could have.
Why would Russia stop now, when it’s near certain that their stated demands will be met either millitarily or via peace concessions?
Ends justify the means, got it.
No, and again, that doesn't apply in any way. Russia isn't going to surrender when they are winning the war, it isn't a real option. Either Ukraine and Russia successfully broker a peace deal, or Russia continues advancing at an increasingly rapid pace. That's the reality of the situation, the war is increasingly unpopular in Ukraine and corruption from the Banderites in charge is causing erosion of support.
There isn't a realistic way for Ukraine to win millitarily.
Might makes right. Got it.
We aren't discussing right, or any kind of moralism, but what actually exists in the real world and what is going to happen.
I actually disagree with most MLs on the war, but you're deliberately not listening to what is trying to be explained to you.
You aren't being told "Russia isn't gonna stop and that's a good thing" you're being told "Russia isn't gonna stop because it doesn't make any sense for them to as they've almost gotten what they wanted."
Shitlib's circuits have burnt out
This kind of refusal to engage with reality is why liberals are getting their lunch eaten by fascists in the west and communists in the east. You do not have a serious worldview.
That's not what they said and you know it, stop being a dishonest troll
Would you use a hammer to saw a plank? Oh wait the ends justify the means in the real world