this post was submitted on 26 Nov 2025
22 points (100.0% liked)

Chapotraphouse

14325 readers
730 users here now

Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.

No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer

Slop posts go in c/slop. Don't post low-hanging fruit here.

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

And someone who you thought is a basic ass lib is glazing China and calling out western imperialism.

I guess I understimated you (Insert User name) .

No seriously this guy was a basic nato lib like 6 months ago.

Whats happening ? Using big words like Sinophobia DAMN my boy is alright

Does it seem like some libs are coming around on China ?

all 3 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] towhee@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago

"the only country doing anything about climate change" does hold a lot of currency with liberals

[–] SouffleHuman@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago

Anecdotally I do feel like there is, to a degree, more of a pro-China undercurrent to mainstream-ish discourse than there was before. Outright celebration and respect of China and the accomplishments of their people is still rare, but I’m seeing a lot of “Well, at least they’re doing [insert X] better than us.” Even if they just have to add a “But authoritarian!” somewhere.

I think there’s both a push and pull effect, Trump is an obvious push factor, but there is also a rising disillusionment of western governments’ ability to deliver a better future for their people. The pull factors meanwhile are China’s visible achievements in building a prosperous society, and the rise in Chinese cultural exports like video games, movies, and technology.

The main challenge for us is to maintain this sentiment after the Democrats take over and the liberals all fall in line. I think that emphasising what China does well, not just what China does better than Trump, is a good start. We need to erode the omnipresent idea that only liberal electoral systems can produce good outcomes for their people, and China makes it pretty easy for us to point to as a counterexample.