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So Long Firefox, Hello Vivaldi (hackaday.com)
submitted 4 weeks ago by zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml to c/firefox@lemmy.ml
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[–] OR3X@lemmy.world 51 points 4 weeks ago

So he traded Firefox for... basically Chromium.

[–] numeral_paver555@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 weeks ago

It's not even open source. Being in Europe doesn't automatically grant you the privacy, let alone the free software rights.

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

There are cool answers to "what are you replacing Firefox with?"

A Blink-based browser is such a lame answer. It just contributes to furthering Google's control over the space.

[–] not_me@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Vanadium

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

I guess that works

[–] riley@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

I don't really have a lot of reason to believe that this will happen, but I wish Mozilla would back off the AI nonsense. I don't want to switch browsers. I think Vivaldi is actually very cool and is my go-to any time a site is misbehaving in FF, but not being FOSS is a big bummer to me.

That said, Vivaldi's built-in web panel feature is SO nice!!

[–] paper_moon@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago

Even if it was foss, it would still be a chromium based rendering engine. Basically Firefox and apple's WebKit are the only things to run to that isn't chromium based, the web is barely staying 'open' as it is.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

all entities are being flashed a lot of cash if they join the AI game and i don't blame firefox for joining in because of it and plus, it'll help them stay around a little bit longer.

[–] The_Grim_Dreamer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Does Vivaldi match Firefox for adblocking ability? That's always been my highest priority when it comes to browsers.

[–] riley@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm actually trying it out as my daily driver for a week or so trying to answer that exact question. I've got Pihole on my network so it won't be a true test of Vivaldi alone, but I can say with the weaker Manifest V3 version of uBlock and whatever Vivaldi has built in, I've been satisfied. Granted, it's just been a day, but I tried my damnedest to get some YouTube ads to appear with no success.

[–] The_Grim_Dreamer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

First you had my curiosity, now you have my attention. Home pi-hole is something I've been meaning to look into.

[–] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Me, I'm sticking with LibreWolf. If Mozilla collapses, I hope they can keep on going without them.

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Isn't LibreWolf just Firefox with a preconfigured profile?

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thought so.

Don't fancy their chances on being able to keep on going without Mozilla.

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean whenever anyone says I'm ditching Firefox for , I am genuinely confused. I doubt any of them can maybe except floorp or whichever is owned by an ad company.

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 weeks ago

Thanks for the reminder to toss the Servo project some money. There needs to be another competitor to Chromium.

[–] original_reader@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 weeks ago

I feel the author. I loved Firefox. Then it went downhill and I used Vivaldi for years.

I stick to Firefox again (Floorp, to be precise, Zen browser when I want to chill) just for diversity's sake and I'm fine with that.

Still, I am sad that Vivaldi runs with Chromium at it's core.

[–] stefenauris@pawb.social 7 points 4 weeks ago

There are options if you want something like Firefox without the AI nonsense like waterfox and librewolf.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I enjoyed Vivaldi for a bit.

But the second time I opened it to find my tabs, browsing history, and literally all other user data, gone... Months apart, with thousands of saved bookmarks and hundreds of tabs lost each time.

I never went back. Deleting everything is just completely unacceptable.

I never found anyone else who'd had it happen, but twice was a pattern I didn't care to repeat.

[–] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

From the article:

The inability to video conference reliably [on LibreWolf]

Could someone elaborate on this? Also

I like my browsers to remember when I have zoomed in on a tab

~~If she means the browser remembering the zoom levels on different pages, this can be done IIRC by disabling resist fingerprinting in about:config and then installing the canvas blocker addon which is not as good as RFP, but for me at least has been a good compromise privacy-wise.~~

Out of date info! Have a look at this instead: https://github.com/arkenfox/user.js/issues/1775

[–] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

Always wanted to like Vivaldi. Like the aesthetic options but it always feels very bloated a browser. LibreWolf with uBlock can be enough to be highly useful and it feels leaner. I do miss the old Opera with the Presto engine, sigh.

[–] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

"AI" is whatever (it's a meaningless buzzword - some "AI features" I like and some I don't care about) but proprietary is a dealbreaker.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 weeks ago

i love firefox and librewolf but ive been using vivaldi more and more since their no ai stance combined with the fact theyre not a us company is really nice. you can also add adblock compatable filterlists to the built in tracker too. just wish they enabled extensions on mobile :(