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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 88 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 36 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Orrrrrrrr fuck the American AI investor bubble. Fuck the American tech tariffs. You know what? Just fuck the USA.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 45 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 8 points 4 months ago

fuck the US of AI ?

Definitely fuck all those, but also fuck fake ai.

[–] 7toed@midwest.social 1 points 4 months ago

Hey when it pops, there may be a surplus of needlessly powerful but battered graphics cards that can't really be used for crypto and other components.

Or just more e-waste destine to form a thin sedimentary layer in 10,000 years

[–] Switorik@lemmy.zip 53 points 4 months ago (2 children)

We're going to go back to covid times when it was cheaper up buy a computer with the graphics card in it than to buy the graphics card out right, but now with ram.

I'm getting so burnt out with the blatant corruption and data centers sucking up all the hardware. You know at the end of the day, all these companies are boasting record profits.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's the thing, they're absolutely not. Nearly all AI implementation fails and returns on investment are minimal, if they exist at all. They're all part of a big gamble.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's exceptionally irrational at the moment. Everyone is not just gambling on an irrational self-valuation of the bet, they're seeing each other's bets, and that is adding an extra level of FOMO irrationality, increasing the bets even further.

With Trump's acts of economic self-mutilation already weakening the economy, this is going to be a wild ride when the bubble pops.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 7 points 4 months ago

I'm so glad that the US economy is based on moving money around between vast dragon hoards instead of making actually useful stuff that improves everyone's daily life.

[–] king_link1@feddit.dk 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Just wait for them to go belly up, and then buy the used hardware

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Yup. Like I just grabbed a nice laptop for $150 that was $1200 in 2025 because Microsoft dictated that every computer is obsolete to their OS.

[–] bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago

Much like RAM, around 90% of Nvidia's hardware in 2025 is for data centers. Unfortunately it's mostly specialized hardware that can't be used in consumer computers.

[–] thenoirwolfess@lemmynsfw.com 51 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

According to PCPartPicker these are the prices of the RAM I've had my eye on - Corsair Vengeance DDR5 2x32GB 6800MT/s..
Start of 2025 - £230
Oct 15th - £290
Nov 25th - £866

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Insane in the memrange.

At this rate, we'll get sold dumb terminals and subscription services for any computing needs under the excuse of "AI crunch". Too many centralized tech cartels getting away with controlling supply and demand that paired with global powers turn completely corrupt has helped create these circumstances.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago

Microsoft has you covered, they sell a thin client box that has enough OS to reach the internet and use their browser and office swuite online.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-365/link

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] thenoirwolfess@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yup.

I mean, there's the slightly slower model for £500 but you know, that's actually worth ~£200 or below

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit, even in the states it’s quite bad. This is just sorting by cheapest on Newegg - either 2x32 or 1x64 DDR5 modules, no speed filters:

[–] thenoirwolfess@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's monstrous, even that A-tech.. :( I hate to imagine the corps sucking them up buying them in bulk at about 80% off.. But they can afford it. The only ones losing are us, either buying them at this price, or the sellers, forced to dissuade the public from buying any because Daddy Meta wants it all

I’m just hoping none of my sticks shit the bed in the next couple years, because I do NOT want to support that price point 😬

[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

My 32 GB of RAM isn't going to last me until the bubble bursts, is it? God dammit.

[–] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I am still running 16GB of DDR3

[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 months ago

I was running 16 for years and only recently upgraded when I hit a wall with modern games. I think the majority of games are fine with 16.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are you running a hypervisor?

[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I had to Google hypervisor before I could answer. No, I'm not running any virtual machines on my computer. It's pretty much just a media machine: games, movies, music, websites, etc.

[–] umfk@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Then 32 is more than enough for many more years to come.

[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Thanks for saying so! A lot of people will tell gamers that they need 64 or even 96 so it's difficult to know what's actually true.

[–] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

I have a friend that runs 128g of RAM. He uses the computer almost entirely for Reddit and stock tracking

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

You must have 1TB of GPUs, else, you can't even run Doom in proper resolution!

My PC has 32GB of RAM. I can run a video game while having a fuckton of browser tabs open. I could probably get away with 16.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Soon: Desolder RAM from PS5 = Profit?

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 7 points 4 months ago

Infinite Money Glitch

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps we'll finally get memory efficient software again

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, but that would require actual R&D and problem solving alongside jargon that your PM didn't learn in their MBA program.

[–] Botzo@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"The business case doesn't add sufficient value for the customer. We need to prioritize creating a lickable UI."

[–] altasshet@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

"Is... Is there a C missing?"

"I said what I said."

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 10 points 4 months ago

Really wishing I'd bought the 128GB DDR4 I need last year.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Any bets on the DRAM makers getting so excited over this and having felt left out of the stupid graphics card pricing, that they put the world into a perpetual DRAM shortage and this is just the new norm.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

At first I was thinking, "WTF, why did the prices shoot up so high?" And then I looked up how much I spent on 32GB of RAM rated for the same speeds back in 2022: Three Hundred Fucking Dollars. The price didn't shoot up; it never went down!

[–] phx@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

For larger RAM chips if went up - sometimes more than double - in half a year. I can literally look at the RAM I purchased in June and it's more than twice that price now

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 5 points 4 months ago

Ah crap. Since months I was thinking of adding more RAM. My current 32gb is sufficient and not low at all. But those stuck with 16gb need to wait longer now. The prices will come down, right? Right?