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This healthy way which vegans may have (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 month ago by FredVegrox@lemmy.world to c/vegan@lemmy.world
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Having a variety of whole foods from plants while avoiding animal products and processed stuff from what is added to prepared food is so good for us it greatly helps against having cancers, or circulatory issues like strokes and heart attacks, along with other great issues to health or well being. Even Alzheimer's disease is avoidable with certain vegetables, which you would have with eating the good variety we should have. It is better to have even more foods from plants, up to a variety of thirty different. Doctors you see will never tell you a good diet to have, in general they don't know, they do not have more nutritional training than anyone, and most assume you can't willingly change your diet. For many, that might be right. Good information made generally available is often lacking. I have a sandwich and a bean burrito each day generally, besides my cooked meals which I alternate between using cut up potato, quinoa, or whole grain noodles, with vegetables cut up in them, hummus, medium salsa, and seasonings, and on some occasions some dried seaweed I put in it too.

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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Even Alzheimer's disease is avoidable with certain vegetables

OP, you're really toeing a line here on Lemmy.World's rule against medical misinformation. There's a possible (and quite plausible) link between plant-based dieting and a lowered risk of dementia. However, your sentence about "certain vegetables" is 1) weasel wording (which vegetables?), 2) not cited to any reliable medical source, and 3) vastly overstating its claim ("is avoidable").

In the future, if you're making medical claims like this without citing them to a source that actually supports what you're saying, I will remove it. Not removing this one because I missed it and it's already so old.

[–] FredVegrox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not misinformation, I have it from doctors, the authors of the Forks Over Knives Plan, see the documentary Forks Over Knives, and there is a site https://www.forksoverknives.com/ It isn't good to threaten with an accusation of misinformation without asking. I actually keep citing the same sources over and over here and with having neglected it this time here I would not have thought it was a great deal. Apparently then it is never the same people who see any post from me. I will take that into account. I speak for eating a great variety of vegetables, that is actually what is so healthy. This has abundant sources, which are recent.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Alright, among other things:

  • That isn't sufficient for a medical claim.
    • This is not a peer-reviewed journal, monograph, textbook, etc.
    • Rather, this is a site that, regardless of promoting a common cause, exists to sell merchandise.
  • Again, "certain vegetables".
  • You still need to cite sources when you make specific medical claims that aren't common knowledge representing broad scientific consensus.
  • "avoid Alzheimer's" isn't how this works; you'd reduce your risk of Alzheimer's.
  • The link between PBD and dementia is an emerging one; "can" is doing some heavy lifting of its own, albeit less than "avoid" is.

I agree there's a plausible link between plant-based dieting and dementia. Saying "you can avoid Alzheimer's by eating certain vegetables" is medical misinformation based on the way you phrased it. When making novel medical claims, it's up to all of us to substantiate those so everyone knows what you mean and we don't turn into a community of "going vegan cured my gum disease AMA".