I'm so glad I talked to some of them to potentially make it fully open source. This is a win for us all!!
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I'd feel liked Id buy out of nostalgia and then be disappointed. Pebble was the pioneer that got bought out. Typical
I dunno. I keep remembering what my old Pebble did, and how well it did, and nothing more... And yep, I want it back.
Basically, a dumb watch, with an HR monitor, accelerometer, and could sync that data to my phone app.
Its API let me do cool things like pause/unpause my music while running, which was nice. But, it required the apps to be have an API for doing so.
Battery? The thing went an entire week between charges.
Personally think it would be cool to have dumb watch option and smart watch option for buying
But yeah those use cases are pretty good
I disagree with calling it "dumb". it was perfect for it's niche. I want a watch to show the time, basic notifications, media control... not send an email.
Pebble always on screen and long battery life was perfect for a wearable. all other smartwatches are basically miniaturized phones that do way too much in a screen that can't handle it. If something is easier to do on the phone, it does not need to work on a smartwatch.
Hopefully the new pebbles are good, I am worried that the new one's touch screen will make a touch based UI, which suck on tiny screens,
I vaguely remember it being amazing but again vaguely remember it. I know it was my 1st smartwatch though!!
I get baited every time :( thinking "Ah! Finally a watch I can buy!" Then I, again, see the 30 day warranty (that would be illegal in my country) and remember that this is not a good buy for me. Good luck to all buyers.
is 30 days a red flag?
ricecake gave a good answer already. In the EU you have 2 years. In the first 12 months the company has to prove that it wasn't their fault, in the next 12 months you have to prove it was their fault.
If no such law is in place, nothing protects you from them using cheap materials that break after a few months.
E.g. I once had a free xbox-replica controller every year because their product was shit and it broke after ~6-9 months. They had to replace it and did so three times. Then I got my money back. Selling * doesn't work here.
dang. ty for the explainer.
I get that but honestly the team is pretty good. They are open to stuff. Try reaching out to some of them I'm sure they would be willing to do that
Some countries have more consumer protections than the US does, and consumers from there are wary of the lack of assurances a lot of us products have.
To them, it's like being told you have to pay for your food at the restaurant even if they mess up your order and you don't get to eat it. It doesn't matter that the waiter probably isn't going to drop your food on the floor, throw it away and then give you a bill: the fact that they could makes you not want to go there.
Likewise, your watch will almost certainly not break via factory defect after more than a month, but the expectation is that if they sell you something it'll either last the expected lifetime or be suitably replaced or refunded on failure.
We're used to our particular blend of capitalist hellscape, so a company saying they'll replace things if they're obviously broken the moment you buy it, but beyond than you're out of luck just seems normal. It's on us to make sure they don't mail us subtly damaged microelectronics and tiny lithium bombs.
Warranty is nothing I care about. In Germany it is perfectly legal (called "Garantie"), but we habe laws ensuring 2 year period called "Gewährleistung" which is automtically included
Either you are misunderstanding something or I am. I don't think Gewährleistung applies here because it is not sold to the German market but instead you import it from the American market.
pebble watch now 100% on my consideration list. maybe i will finally get a smartwatch?
what do you guys find it useful for?
I have a Pebble Time and when the app stopped working a Garmin Fenix.
I use my smart watch predominantly for Text notifications, call screening and music control.
In the past this was to extend my phone to last more than a day. But now it’s so I don’t need to dig up my phone when I get a notification or call. Great for monitoring things when you are driving or walking.
The biggest benefits of these devices is the insane battery life. Like a Garmin the battery is in weeks not hours. So charging is infrequent unlike the phone.
Pebble though is still the best in this field since their watches use epaper for their displays. So it actually works as a watch. And their devices are application focused, so if it doesn’t come with a timer, you can always download one.
Garmin watches are good, but their move to OLED pushed me away from buying another. And their locked down system makes me concerned with its future as a smart watch. As a sport and activity tracker it’s unrivalled. But I will buy a new pebble before another Garmin.
You got a garmin fenix for text notifications? Wild stuff
It was very very onsale, and at the time I was bouldering so I wanted to track it.
Currently using it as a swim watch and if I get a new pebble, I will still be using it as my exercise computer.
Man I wish I could get a fenix very very on sale
Usually their out going ones are like half off during sales. Currently the 7 is at half off $630 CAD. Which I think is what I paid for my 6 and is the same price as the Forerunner… onsale.
That said the 7 is the newest fenix id buy now that Garmin is ditching the MIPs display for AMOLED.
Really hate that we are moving away from front lit MIPs displays. Only the Enduro has it and it’s not cheap.
- Tasker profiles
- Music Boss to use gesture control and control audiobooks and music
- Tasker Profiles
- Call and text info
- Tasker profiles
- Google map directions
Cool, but have you thought about using it for Tasker profiles?
Can’t, he’s too busy with Tasker profiles.
He's busy trying to figure out how to set up Tasker profiles using Tasker profiles
I'm on day 9 with over 40% battery left and that's with dealing with over 300 notifications a day.
It's stupid light, barely notice it's there.
I love my pebble, I missed them while they were gone - no other smartwatch comes close. I'm glad they're back.
But why 300 notifications per day? Can you not turn them off?
Iddon't have a pebble watch but I find my smartwatch useful for reducing my screen time. when I get a notification, I look at my watch and don't do anything else if it is not important, doesn't require immediate answer. When I don't have my watch, I look at my phone to see the notification, and check other stuff while I have my phone, like Instagram end Lemmy, and a single notification takes 20 minutes of my life.
battery life, the quirky watch faces, notifications and controlling my music while on the run. GadgetBridge supports it so you don't depend on their apps. the pebble 2 models have an issue with the buttons. pebble time is fine. also, don't use them in water.
If the Android app is fully open source, then it should be made available in f-droid
Apparently the packaging requirements for F-Droid are more challenging than just "must be open source" and aren't for everybody.
https://f-droid.org/en/docs/Inclusion_Policy/
The "no Google Play services" alone are a non starter for many apps. My preferred messenger, Signal, is plenty open source and runs its own notification daemon, but cannot be found on F-Droid. I have to get it via Obtainium instead.
"No Google Play services" falls under "app must be FOSS". The average publicly developed open source app should not have much trouble getting into F-Droid if the developer wants to. Google Play services consists of several components, one of which is a proprietary library included in apps using it. If your app includes proprietary code, it is not FOSS.
If Signal decided a build without proprietary blobs isn't worth it, they're not getting into F-Droid. Forks of Signal exist that remove the Google Play services build requirement, those are in F-Droid.
Forks of Signal exist that remove the Google Play services build requirement, those are in F-Droid.
Like Molly. I use it and it's great. I'm using the FOSS version.
You can even selfhost the push server.
I think Mastodon and Element use Google's push notification service.
I have microG installed, and both apps show up as registered for cloud messaging.
Element on fdroid uses ntfy push notifications or background sync.
Ah, you are right, I installed Element from the Google store (using Aurora).
But Mastodon is from F-Droid and it uses Google notification service, I just checked.
Signal […] cannot be found on F-Droid. I have to get it via Obtainium instead.
You can get Molly on F-Droid. It's a soft fork that iimplements UnifiedPush, among other things.
In addition to this, Signal can be downloaded from their own website and has a self update mechanism. It also does not depend on google play services (which I don't have on my android phone)
Ooh.. can I print my next smartwatch?
Depends, can you print your own PCBs and microchips?
can you print your own PCBs
As long as its only dual layer, no problem
and microchips
No 😢
Cool! I've been that interested in smartwatches but I'm interested in this!
I finally got my Duo 2, and while my old OG still lasts 3 days on a battery I figured time to give it rest.
So far its been great, except that I can't connect to gadgetbridge anymore. I uninstalled the Core pebble app and instead popped MicroPebble on my phone due to not exactly liking where Core was heading, so I'm glad they're finally pivoting.