Let's see how many people agree with me that both poor communication and alcohol are not really signs of professional seniority
Programmer Humor
Welcome to Programmer Humor!
This is a place where you can post jokes, memes, humor, etc. related to programming!
For sharing awful code theres also Programming Horror.
Rules
- Keep content in english
- No advertisements
- Posts must be related to programming or programmer topics
I agree, i also want to add that bad financial decisions are not professional (buying over-priced hardware) but i suppose you don't care if the salary is high soo
How about getting the people who pay you to buy you over-priced hardware?
I'd personally prefer more hardware for the money, including when its being bought by others. But I also have to replicate client environments (though at a much smaller scale), so its kind of a cheat code for "buy me that" or "I'll be keeping this for 6-9 months and you can buy me a replacement when this one gets delivered to you".
I think I need another GPU heavy project.
Except every single MacBook you can buy right now (directly, from Apple, not second hand) directly beats pretty much every other device in its price range - unless you go super crazy with the specs and want to do 128GB RAM with an M5 Max and 8TB storage.
So it's hardly overpriced.
I’ve been diehard anti-Apple for anything but their mobile devices (iPhone, ipad) for most of my life. Overpriced, underpowered. Now I own a MacBook Pro M4 and I just can’t get over how good it is. What a turnaround their change to Apple Silicone has made, it’s actually wild to me.
MacBooks, specifically, are still expensive but actually value for money now.
The build quality is excellent in my experience. I can justify spending more if it lasts and my previous MBP made it a decade!
A m4 macbook air is $800 and absolutely stomps every laptop even remotely in that price bracket
I don't think the image is trying to indicate professional seniority, it seems to me to try to represent seniority from an experience standpoint
Replace the macbook with a beaten up Thinkpad with 4th-5th gen Intel CPU, then it's more realistic.
Yeah, who the hell associates macs with higher competence? Before the 00s, I associated mac users with stumbling on the worse option but not realizing it, after the 00s, wanting to follow trends and/or overpay for hardware to seem rich. They've always been form over function, and simplicity over power, which are things that novice uses look for, not more experienced ones.
Or maybe more experienced ones when most of those experiences went badly and little was learned.
I think the point is not that it's a MacBook, but that the senior is using a single laptop instead of a full multi-monitor setup.
Personally as a senior, I use 4 monitors. My eyes are too shit to stare at a tiny laptop screen all day, and I want slack/browser/terminal windows on their own screens. It's much more comfortable as well.
A MacBook pro, if you're into the apple ecosystem, is a solid option. You can run Linux and Windows in parallels and do your development on there, and for a lot of development workloads it's sufficiently performant.
I like my system76 laptop, but I ran a MacBook pro for a couple years and it was solid, and this was over 10 years ago.
Advertising, and Apple buying up some professional software to discontinue their non-Apple versions (as well as disabling customization as "they know better than the users") made it equal with "professionalism".
Im pretty sure its mostly battery life.
You can pry my T440 from my cold dead hands or, at the least, give me a bit of notice so I can fish out my X220. Or my X80. Or my other X220. Or my T420... I might have a problem.
Running arch
If I resort to using a Mac I want someone to put me out of my misery.
Honestly, between the MBP and a similarly priced Dell as a company laptop, i choose the MBP.
The battery is better, the screen is better, performance is better, etc
Dell doesn't know how to make a laptop & windows sucks ass. Macos is so locked down by default that all the restrictions on a company laptop don't change the user experience all that much.
In an ideal world, id love a debian thinkpad or framework. But we don't live in an ideal world, so had to choose between the two worst possible options
I was able to buy my M1 MBP from my company for cheap and the laptop is amazing. Its like 4 years old now but it doesnt feel like its aged a day. Easy 6 hour battery life while doing heavy tasks and it performs like a beast. It's faster than my desktop at many tasks such as compilation.
M CPUs make me a believer in ARM and other non-x86 chips, but preferably RISC-V in the long term.
If I interpret the mac as just any laptop then I kind of agree. The more experience I have gained the less I care about how many monitors I have or how fancy my keyboard is. I do require linux though.
No the keyboard is important. There are so many truly awful keyboards out there that have no travel on the keys.
I absolutely cannot stand the keyboard on the MacBook air. It's so incredibly cheap and it appears to be made out of the same material that they package luxury chocolates in.
I'm an alcoholic how do I translate this skill into becoming a dev? Serious question.
get hired as an entry level Q&A, drink with the devs when you break their shit.
they'll accept you eventually.
Pfft JD is trash no self respecting senior would by such short whiskey
23:22? Nah mate, my work phone turns off the moment I step through the gate. If someone chose to wait until after 16:00, they can wait until next morning to be told to fuck off.
There's far better bourbon out there, seniors.
That's not true. I prefer wine and Scottish whisky
The best, brightest, most complicated thing I've done in IT became obsolete in 4 years.
I used to prefer Jameson poured into my coffee when I worked somewhere with 6 hours of zoom meetings a day. I don't care what the laptop is,really, as long as it's not running windows and it has a buttload of ram. It's usually provided by whoever I'm working for anyway.
System admin. This is still relevant
The constant distraction and availability resonate with me.
The main thing is to put in systems where you don’t need as much effort to handle daily business. Usually you can engineer your way out of high touch, multi-step process glue.
In my youth working manual labour jobs I was full of vinegar and wouldn’t wait for the trucking dolly. Older workers taught me to slow down and I took that advice into software work.
That’s exactly how I’d consider experience. You think via systems(which include human interactions) instead of only technical aspects.
I’ve seen teams in really bad shape because the senior engineers fail to provide the right kind of leadership.


