I heard OpenCloud is basically only the file server part of Nextcloud. Never tried it, though.
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I've set up filebrowser quantum and am pretty happy with it. I also have skipped over nextcloud due to the reasons you mentioned, as I really don't want all of the extra stuff, plus, I've heard it's a pain to maintain. Seafile wouldn't work for me for the same reasons as you.
The main thing it's missing is offline automatic syncing of files, though I'm not sure any self hosted file app supports that unfortunately.
Off the shelf NAS like Synology or qnap both have this feature.
OpenList?
I've found Nextcloud to be fantastic, its why I started self hosting.
Ive run Nextcloud on a Pi4B with 4GB ram & external HDD with just one user. I also sync Joplin notes, which I use constantly. Additionally used Collabora Office on the phone for syncing office docs. i was happy with this set up for a long time, had no issues really, synced between a couple of desktops & a phone.
Eventually treated myself to a Pi5 8GB ram with NVMe & an Argon fanless case. Main reason for upgrade was an additional Nextcloud need - to share holiday/trip/event photos with multiple non tech savvy older family members via the Memories plug in. This set up has been absolutely rock solid, absolutely no issues & for my needs has been blazing fast. Memories is great too for quick & easy sharing whilst away. The family members love it (Nextcloud is exposed behind Nginx Proxy Manager, I send them a read only public link for Memories)
As they are quite intensive I recently migrated Immich & Paperless from Pi4B 4GB to a Beelink EQ14 but I see no reason at all to migrate Nextcloud from the Pi5.
Rclone WebDav is what I use
I run nextcloud, but I do use other apps. Like contacts and calendar, the news app and even the whiteboard.
But I run it like the work servers I manage, I still don't understand how so many find running nextcloud so difficult.
Even though I don't use the extra stuff in nextcloud, it runs perfectly fine on my hardware and is great as a replacement for onedrive functionality
OwnCloud Infinite Scale might be the option you missed?
Nextcloud was forked from the PHP Owncloud some years back, and they added all the apps and things. But Owncloud is like Nextcloud but focused only on the files.
I am a bit concerned that you're talking about not wanting HTTPS and see it as a bad thing that something requires it. Given you can get free certificates these days, why would you not want a secure connection? Even if you're accessing via a VPN to server tunnel, I see no reason not to have it.
I love seafile. And if you need access on the main server there is a server-side FUSE filesystem which exposes all libraries at a mount point as a regular directory hierarchy.
How the heck did you install Seafile!? I spent a whole day trying to get it to work, but there are so many moving parts and proxies behind proxies behind proxies. I managed to get the UI to load, but other parts of the app didn't work. I want to like it, but it seems pretty complicated to install... 😢
Docker, I think. I haven’t touched it in a while since it’s not broke so I’m not 100% sure. I can probably send you the compose file I used.
Isn't it a Russian company?
chinese (prc) afaik
syncthing for peers like PCs NAS and backup server. copyparty for online browsing/cherrypicking files
You are invited to join the CopyParty! This has a web UI accessible from the browser, also from mobile, files are stored directly on the filesystem (not encrypted or on a database) and you can mount it as a network drive on Windows and Linux. But it doesn't let you sync files for offline use, at least not without the help of some auxiliary tools.
You won't find anything simpler to install and configure than this.
Does copy party do s3 buckets?
No, only the local FS. But they have recommendations in their README for integrating with S3 with the help of other tools.
Copyparty is very cool, but it also confuses me a bit. It keeps giving me 403 forbidden errors when I try to rename or move files on certain folders.
I'm pretty sure it's a permission problem, because the root folder is read only but the folders inside have permissions per user, but I never figured it out.
I still use it daily, 5/7 perfect software.
FolderSync pairs nicely if you want some sync features on android.
On a desktop or laptop I'd just mount it as a drive.
If you really want automatic sync with offline availability, the Nextcloud desktop client has been solid for years now.
Many of the people who worked at OwnCloud Infinite Scale are now at OpenCloud due to disagreements between them and the company which purchased OwnCloud.
Isn't a self-hosted onedrive literally just a networked hard drive?
I think people generally look for a phone app / ease of use type of thing
The odd part of that is what files do I have on my computer that would be useful on my phone?
And when it's on my phone there is likely already ab app for that, eg. Music, calendar, notes, etc.
Immich for pictures seems like a good answer to your question. What's files: Mostly pictures I think. Why not just keep it on phone? people love their pictures. I have more than a phones worth.
But that is exactly what I am saying. Everything I have on my phone has an app. Immich for photos for example.
Each app that stores things on my server already manages the data to get there.
So is there a need for a file server that works on my phone like this person is asking about?
I mean I do have SMB access from my phone as well, but I hardly need it since individual apps are already pushing and pulling data from my server.
Non app storage needs then... My best guess then is messaging app attachments? maybe OP needs to save docs/pdfs he gets from Whatsapp/telegram. But you're right, that seems more of a laptop/PC activity.
Just adding my own experience, Nextcloud AIO runs plenty fast for just me (family is slow adopters) but its simple user interface is slowly working for them.
I run it in an LXC with access to two cores of an i7-9700 and 4gb of ram.
All the files are stored on an old usb2 external hdd.
Obviously that set up won’t scale well and the hdd will be the first bottleneck but I notice no performance issues and as a shameful windows user the way it ties in like OneDrive is great.
I can also just mount it as a network share for my Linux computer.
I do use the calendars and other features though.
OwnCloud
Does it have any advantages over Nextcloud? I did briefly look into it but it just seemed to be Nextcloud but primarily aimed at enterprise customers
Owncloud? It does have an ios and android app
Does it have any advantages over Nextcloud? I did briefly look into it but it just seemed to be Nextcloud but primarily aimed at enterprise customers
I run nextcloud on a Raspberry Pi and I don't use the other apps, just the file stuff. It seems like the best supported option to me.
webdav? https://github.com/fstanis/awesome-webdav?tab=readme-ov-file
apparently, macOS and Windows still support this protocol