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Kyiv has been offered a “Kremlin peace plan” under the guise of negotiations. The US and Russia have reportedly prepared a peace plan for Ukraine that would involve Kyiv meeting the Kremlin’s maximalist demands, says Christopher Miller, a correspondent for the Financial Times.

At the same time, Reuters sources report that the US indicated to President Volodymyr Zelenskyy that Kyiv should accept Washington-prepared frameworks for ending the war with Russia. It remains unclear what security guarantees would be given for Kyiv, as there is no evidence that the Kremlin has abandoned its imperial ambitions.

Earlier, Axios wrote that Washington and Moscow were discussing a new peace plan to end Russia’s war against Ukraine.

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[–] yakko@feddit.uk 205 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Fundamentally unserious "just admit defeat" type of offering. The real signal is that the US is still a painfully unreliable ally.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 96 points 5 days ago

The US is a shit stain on the world stage.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 56 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The same type of plan the west and in fact China and Russia back up for palestinians. Both Ukraine and Palestine should not give up a single inch of land to the occupiers and desfinitely not surrended armed resistance

[–] Coyote_sly@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

God damn right.

[–] ICCrawler@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (2 children)

And yet, for being so painfully unreliable, especially with the ruling parties flip-flopping back and forth so much, USA aid is still sought after. 🙄

I imagine as Zelensky has said so many times before, Ukraine won't cede shit. Hopefully, he tells them both to go kick rocks.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 18 points 5 days ago

It's like Smeagol/Gollum. You might need them for certain shit, but you know it's going to end in tears.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 days ago

Why wouldn't Ukraine take anything the US is willing to give? Worst case scenario, they don't give anything and you're in the same place you started.

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[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Don't forget a big part of the deal: Putin won't show pictures of Trump sucking off Bubba.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

As if AI can't do that already. Nobody on either side will believe anything offered as evidence, because it's just so easy to fake. He'll never suffer any consequences for his lifetime of criminality and lies.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Creating photos that will actually pass real scrutiny hasn't happened yet. That's why. Can it fool the general populace who would look at it for no more than 1 second? Sure. But that's a low bar.

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[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 days ago

Yeah, why hasn't anyone made this already actually?

Don't forget, he's doing the Hitler playbook 1:1. And Hitler did one thing good: he killed Hitler. Just saying, there's still hope.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 68 points 5 days ago (3 children)

So basically, allow the invaders to invade your country without resistance?

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 33 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And then wait for them to do it again in about 10 years to grab for even more. It's not a peace plan, it's surrender.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 35 points 5 days ago

"Make Russian your official language!"

10 Years Later

"We must invade and claim territory, the majority of the population speaks Russian so obviously it's already Russia"

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago

More: "Make this retroactively legal so we can avoid war crime trials and damages".

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Yes, but under the promise that you won't be under any kind of protection if it happens again in a few years.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 72 points 5 days ago

Zelenskyy better say thank you!

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 86 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It is said to have been inspired by the Trump administration’s efforts to broker a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas.

That explains a lot. Basically "reward the aggressor" and "prevent any possibility for future armed resistance"

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

Also “create a news event that will make Trump look like he’s accomplished something,” non matter how meaningless it is on the ground.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Stupid title made it sound like Ukraine made the offer.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

I'm trying to figure out if that was intentional, or they're just really fucking bad at their job.

[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 63 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"You can have peace. Just surrender to our rule!"

Reminder that bullying exists from the school yard all the way to international politics.

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[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 55 points 5 days ago

Putin just keeps grabbing us by the Trump.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (51 children)

I for one prefer full scale war than this.

SLAVA UKRAINI!

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[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

How is the orange cancer telling Zelenskyy what Putin told him to say with that Russian dick in his mouth?

[–] Nerrad@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

Every month I buy a field med kit for Ukraine through White Stork. I am so sorry about Trump, Ukraine. So utterly sorry.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

When will someone explain to Donald that Russia only respects power. Always has always will.

Slap them hard enough and often enough and THEN negotiate.

Maybe a tomahawk to one of Putins personal villas?

[–] collar@lemmy.world 36 points 5 days ago

Trump admires this. He doesnt see Putin as an enemy, but an inspiration. Same reason MBS was welcomed the way he was at the White House, while people like Zelenskyy are mocked and scolded when they arrive.

[–] blave@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I can hear Zelenskyy laughing from here

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

“Oh wait you’re serious let me laugh harder” - Zelenskyy, pribably

[–] card797@champserver.net 14 points 5 days ago
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