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[-] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 129 points 1 year ago

Remember. He is a felon. That means he cannot vote in an election, but he absolutely can be elected to created laws. It's so weird thinking about that out loud.

[-] space_gecko@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago

To be fair, allowing felons to run for office means that a leader's political enemies can't be charged with phony crimes in order to prevent them from running for office. It's a safeguard against authoritarianism.

[-] trebuchet@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago

But ironically in this case, it means someone who illegally rebeled in support of an authoritarian overthrow of democracy is given another chance to support authoritarianism.

[-] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah we don't want political shenanigans to happen that easily. Looking at you, India.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Actually? He served in the military (US navy,) and took an oath to defend and uphold the constitution,

The 14th absolutely applies, and he is ineligible to hold any public office - including city-level positions.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Bingo, the tea party basically created the "do you uphold your oath" shit to cops, they should probably know better.

[-] TheJims@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Remember, he’s also a moron.

[-] Jomega@lemmy.world 85 points 1 year ago

"Libertarian party endorses man who fought to install authoritarian dictatorship."

Whatever happened to the whole "Don't tread on me" slogan? Oh right. I forgot it was all bullshit.

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

“We want a small government! And by small we mean a permanent fascist dictator with all the power and no accountability!”

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yep. "Libertarian" is just a mask-on way of saying "I want all regulations removed so I can fully indulge my psycopathic thirst for greater and greater wealth" because if they were honest, even the most gullible middle-class voters would be escorting them to the guillotine.

I can guarantee that sleazy neoliberal circles have done the maths on the most profitable political system to back and the results were almost certainly...

  1. Fascism (because slaves)
  2. Libertarianism (because using child workers to dump toxic waste in public waterways counts as "freedom")
  3. Conservative neoliberalism (because you can mostly get what you want by donating bribes and don't need to worry about morality)
  4. "Left-wing" neoliberalism (mostly the same as above but you have to be slightly less greedy and look sad doing it)
  5. Progressivism (because they'd have to pay for taxes, workers and the environmental cost of their products)
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[-] Tbird83ii@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago

NO STEP ON SNEK!

[-] Commiunism@lemmy.wtf 12 points 1 year ago

Wage labor is already very totalitarian in principle - they determine what you wear, what you do, when you eat, when you go to the bathroom, basically it's a private government of their own, and people are selling themselves into the servitude.

Libertarianism seeks to go even further with that by removing regulations and letting free market do its thing, which, considering the first sentence of this comment, would make Libertarianism authoritarian if you're not a business owner or someone rich, and the "Don't tread on me" slogan only applies to those people.

[-] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Doesn’t the 14th amendment have him barred already? This seems a non issue as it can’t happen.

[-] djsoren19@yiffit.net 37 points 1 year ago

As far as I am aware, it has never been tested. Clearly he should not be able to run, and clearly neither should Trump, but laws only have meaning if they are enforced.

[-] tburkhol@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

[edited:] That's what the Trump cases in MN etc are about. The MN(?) judge punted, though, and declined to say whether he was ineligible for office, saying instead, basically, that the state didn't have any rule against insurrectionists being on primary ballots.

Parties are welcome to nominate someone who might never be allowed to take office - that's a party problem, not a state problem.

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[-] Additional_Prune@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

I listened to him talking on a podcast. Not just satisfied with every conspiracy theory out there, the guy makes up new ones, for example that a mall in Arizona has underground passageways to facilitate the trafficking of children.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

I think authorities really need to be looking into these people that are this obsessed with child trafficking. Like yes, it's awful and we all want to stop it. But the fantasies these people come up with... If anything, it makes it harder for people and organizations that actually do give a shit and put their money where their mouth is.

[-] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Dude was in near solitary confinement for 27 months. He's really just another example of how broken the American prison system is, he comes out even more aggressive and deranged than when he went in

[-] theodewere@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

that's because Libertarians are nothing but trolls

[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

They are Republicans with weed and a bigger hard on for Ayn Rand.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I am really fucking sick and tired of the Libertarian Party giving all libertarians a bad name.

For the record, not all libertarians are motherfucking an-caps. Some are leftists.

[-] Stopwatch8200@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 1 year ago

I like Penn Jillete's brand of libertarianism. He says he's a classical liberal and is pro roads, schools, libraries, social safety nets and so on. I think Ancap is an interesting mental exercise but it'd be crazy to attempt on a state or national scale. So, I don't see a place for them in national politics, currently. But I'm cool if they wanna go and start their own communes or something.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah this is the party we’re talking about

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[-] CaptainHowdy@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

JFC I used to be a libertarian and I still agree with some of their values, but over the last 20 years they've really just become a joke. Not as much as the GOP, who intentionally associate with Cruz and MTG, but this is getting there.

It's like someone said "it can't be worse than Ted Cruz and Margie..." And the libertarian is all "hold my beer."

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They've always been a joke. You've just grown up.

Same here.

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[-] Luft@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Don’t worry, once they find out he’s Vegan, he’ll be unelectable

[-] VintageTech@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Do most U.S. Libertarians not see themselves this way?

[-] DeathWearsANecktie@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

He's just a twat in a hat

[-] hrimfaxi_work@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago

I'm a shamanic practitioner irl and this guy's nickname pisses me off. The guy pisses me off, too. His ancestors think he's a cunt, I bet.

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