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making AI haters seem very cool and effective

(send this to an AI data centre hater you know!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPbTXEOJEVM&list=UU9rJrMVgcXTfa8xuMnbhAEA - video
https://pivottoai.libsyn.com/20251117-data-center-watch-worries-anti-ai-activism-is-working - podcast

time: 6 min 29 sec

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[–] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I support the Anti data center activism that involves explosives.

[–] corbin@awful.systems 13 points 1 week ago

In my personal and professional opinion, most datacenter outages are caused by animals disturbing fiber or power lines. Consider campaigning for rewilding instead; it's legal and statistically might be more effective.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Think just blocking off the air vents would also work. Same thing with billionaire bunkers, block the airvents, weld the doors shut.

[–] corbin@awful.systems 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Unlike a bunker, a datacenter's ventilation consists of [DATA EXPUNGED] which are out of reach. The [DATA EXPUNGED] are heavily [DATA EXPUNGED], so [DATA EXPUNGED] unlikely to work either. However, this ventilation must be [DATA EXPUNGED] in order to effectively [DATA EXPUNGED], and that's done by [DATA EXPUNGED] into the [DATA EXPUNGED] and [DATA EXPUNGED] to prevent [DATA EXPUNGED].

Edit: making the joke funnier.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

politely: while I understand the impulse behind this discursive angle, it's probably not the greatest idea to have it here

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah, I was just trying to make a joke about how explosives are overkill (and point out that the billionare bunkers are prob not as secure as they would hope (still mad about them building bunkers instead of you know doing anything positive)), not really trying to make a real plan to stop them.

And tbh, we know what to do with malicious datacenters, esp if they are in bunkers, the Dutch/German police has gone after a few of them. The trick is to wait till their MDMA lab catches fire, and then you arrest them.

[–] BioMan@awful.systems 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I wonder what will happen to all the data-center-specialized hardware when the demand falls through the floor. SOMEONE will buy it, the question is what will people figure out how to use it for despite it not being like ordinary consumer hardware.

[–] it_wasnt_arson@awful.systems 5 points 5 days ago

The answer I don't like thinking about too hard: mass surveillance. Running facial recognition against social media posts and security camera footage, transcribing recordings of phone calls, and using LLMs to build dossiers at scale. Confabulations? Complete nonsense accusations? Who cares? Are you going to defend domestic terrorists against this huge pile of evidence-shaped text?

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ad targeting, spam campaigns, dark propaganda.

[–] BioMan@awful.systems 3 points 1 week ago

Of course. People who have money and don't need to make money will use it.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 10 points 1 week ago

It's chips specifically optimised to FP8 and FP4 without video outputs. Its only use is machine learning. That's assuming the hardware doesn't die of overheating in short order. This stuff was born to be e-waste.