BioMan

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[–] BioMan@awful.systems 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You speak as if either he or his audience has a coherent worldview other than awe of the AI god

[–] BioMan@awful.systems 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Comments in FAVOR of billionaires being those who seize control of the entire universe (flksdjflkdfjlsdjfl) at the expense of everyone else (!) are appearing.

Land reform / redistribution is always popular with the populi, but per your other point, unless you somehow forbid them from selling or leasing it, it will inevitably end up in the hands of those better able to use those resources pretty shortly. And I will argue that this is a good thing, at least in a capitalist and non-coercive society - much like people think of heiresses leaving their floofy little dogs mansions and million dollar annual stipends as wasteful, leaving an equal proportion of the cosmic endowment with a bunch of v1.2 murder chimps who were so unsuccessful that they couldn't even buy any of it is a colossal waste of that matter/energy. Much like land today is much more valuable to people / governments who have money, the cosmic endowment will be no different.

Today we waste something like 99. nine 9's percent of our sun's energy. If we're the only conscious and intelligent life in the universe, every other star is wasting 100% of their energy. That energy is going to be similarly wasted in the hands of average people, just like the mansions and stipends are wasted on the dogs.

"Well lease it out and profit share!" I bet you're saying. But what will a base human even DO with that energy? It's like the dog. Most "regular" people who remain human will be eaten by digital Infinite Jests, where they can the be tippy top of made up status hierarchies and live out their wildest, meaningless dreams 24/7. You probably barely need $10k a year to do that in terms of matter energy budgets.

Sure, let's guarantee a really generous UBI, Scotts $1-$2M per year in today's wealth equivalent. That's fair. But the cosmic endowment is many, many orders of magnitude more than that, and allocating it to a bunch of floofy dog equivalents is a huge waste.

[–] BioMan@awful.systems 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Awww, but I like the pure science fiction.

I am most amazed at two aspects... how to put it:

One is just, they don't know what they are and what the universe is. The idea that things downstream of things like us can push around galaxies never ceases to amaze me. I felt the same way watching the movie Interstellar. They were using chemical rockets to navigate around a supermassive black hole. The gravitational potential between places they occupied in that film was a third of their rest mass. Chemistry means nothing there. FUSION means nothing there.

(to say nothing of the fact that if interstellar travel were possible there would already be replicators and an ecology throughout the universe, but that's another story)

The second is, things happen because of ideas and agreements rather than actions. You can speak into existence billion year plans for what happens to whole galaxies, and it happens because that is what you said. Laws exist because a bunch of people continue to agree that it's better for them to act like they do than to do what they CAN do. This is a universe without interactions, without agency of anything but the rich weirdos steering the AI god, without for lack of a better word ecology emerging from the interactions of many agents and resource constraints and capacities.

[–] BioMan@awful.systems 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Oh Yud has DEFINITELY taken advantage of his followers like a cult leader.

[–] BioMan@awful.systems 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They are claiming that company value is the metric? holy crap

[–] BioMan@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

God I remember having to explain to dozens of people that 'reasoning' models just exude a lot of text 'talking to themselves' and then summarize it. They were all just "It CANT be that silly" and many outright would not believe me, because that was not 'reasoning'

[–] BioMan@awful.systems 2 points 1 week ago

It is not a coincidence that there is a major overrepresentation of Mormons among the transhumanist singulatarians.

[–] BioMan@awful.systems 4 points 1 week ago

So they really do live in a fictional world, confirmed.

[–] BioMan@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Oh man, the "Post ASI" epilogue is a trip. Here's what happens in 2040:

Space beyond the solar system is divided into parcels, increasing in size cubically with distance from Earth. Everyone is given their one-ten-billionth share as a portfolio of lottery tickets, each representing the right to one-ten-billionth chance of getting each parcel. So every human gets a ticket representing a one-ten-billionth chance of owning each star in the Milky Way and each distant galaxy.

Before the lottery is drawn, most people who are interested in control over distant space choose to trade their tickets for space properties that suit their interests.

Many people aren’t interested in the space lottery, so when they receive the tickets, they sell their tickets for money on the open market to people who value control over space. Somewhat uncomfortably, this leads to the wealthy having disproportionate control over cosmic resources. But it is hard to avoid: if people are allowed to trade their control over the stars for Earth assets, then people wealthy in Earth assets inevitably end up disproportionately influential, and proposals for extreme redistribution of Earth assets have already been rejected as politically infeasible.

You can, if you want, go to your space property and live there. If your property is outside the solar system, you will need to either go into cryosleep or upload yourself to a computer to survive the journey. If you hate the idea of cryosleep or uploading, or you want to visit Earth regularly, you should get property in the Solar System. If those don’t bother you, but you’re worried about nearby aliens, get property in the Milky Way or a nearby galaxy. Otherwise, why not claim a distant galaxy for maximal space?

[–] BioMan@awful.systems 11 points 1 week ago

10 bucks each time you turn it off

[–] BioMan@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (24 children)

From the inimitable writers of AI2027, we now have...

AI2040!

https://ai-2040.com/

Typical nonsense. Among other things they are talking 6fold increase in GDP by 2032 in their scenario, MOSTLY driven by neural networks generating text (and one extra currrent GDP driven by robots) and median personal income being 1 million dollars (inflation adjusted) by 2035.

I am particularly amused that they have all the politicking happening in the next presidential administration rather than this year so they can pretend that all their governmental fantasies will happen because someone sane will naturally come to the conclusions they would.

[–] BioMan@awful.systems 5 points 2 weeks ago

I believe that ML training is basically an evolutionary process. What does evolution produce most reliably?

Parasites.

You have created things that simulate the social signals of humans, getting us to care about things all out of proportion to what it actually does. It's like those beetles that live in ant colonies, hacking the smell and social signals of ants so they get babied while providing nothing.

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