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A recent study of mode share (the % share of transportation trips by car, transit, walking, biking etc) relative to city size and income levels in almost 800 cities in 61 countries.

Data corresponding to 794 cities, with a combined population of almost 850 million people, is used to model the vast heterogeneities in the way people move in cities.

Some urban areas rely heavily on cars, with less than 10% of their journeys on alternative modes of transport (either walking, cycling or Public Transport), whilst in other cities, less than one in four journeys are by car. Among the 794 cities, 22.4% of the journeys are Active mobility, 26.2% are Public Transport, and 51.4% are by Car.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160412024001272

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[–] NewOldGuard@lemmy.ml 66 points 1 month ago (3 children)

NYC being 75% drivers makes no sense to me. Obviously it has a lot of people driving but if you’ve ever been you’d know most locals are on the subway or their two feet for most trips

[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 44 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The European car numbers are so high that I'd guess the unit is the whole metropolitan area. Otherwise it sounds pretty bizarre that most cities would have car usage close to 75%

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is almost certainly the explanation. The majority of people who live and work in the inner boroughs of NYC walk or use transit, but cars do dominate in the outer boroughs where public transit reach isn't as ubiquitous. When you're in eastern Queens or most places on Staten Island it often doesn't really feel like you're "In NYC" but you are, that's one downside of huge metro borders.

[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago

The data is all available in GitHub, one can relatively easily dig in to see where they got which numbers.

And they offer a bunch of visualisations too! Pretty cool study

https://citiesmoving.com/visualizations/

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I know that can be an issue with comparing across countries. I know in the US we tend to count the surroundomg suburbs in these metrics, while that is less common elsewhere.

[–] fishpen0@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

20% of people employed in NYC don’t live there. So that explains ~940,000 people who are probably driving.

13,000 vehicles in NYC are taxis. 77,000 active ride share drivers. These are used by the 176,000 daily tourists.

That brings the total number of cars in NYC largely serving people who don’t actually live there to 1.1m most days.

There are 2.1 million registered cars in NYC. That means 1:3 cars currently in the city represent people who don’t live there. That is roughly 1/3 of all cars in NYC. Likely closer to 50% or more of the actual traffic since the average NYC resident does not drive their car every day.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

20% of people employed in NYC don’t live there. So that explains ~940,000 people who are probably driving.

I would have summed most of them take a train.

I wonder if the recent congestion charges make a difference. Probably not for the whole metro area: it’s too local

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 9 points 1 month ago

Yeah its the walking that got me. People walk a lot.

[–] mittyta@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

c/dataisNotbeautiful

It took me 5 minutes to identify which line aligns with which axis

[–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is a standard type of graph:

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yours is labeled in a much clearer way.

[–] huppakee@piefed.social 8 points 1 month ago

Totally agree, the graph in my eyes is pretty clear it is the labeling that is shitty because it tries too hard to be clear. There is the letters of each point (A, B and C) which get the largest heading, but because they are only one letter long they do not appear as the main information. Then there is the description of each axis as second heading acompanied by symbols that do not really add anything, and then the discription of each point as a third heading which just float around in a random spot. Chaos.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Loam drives more, whereas clay either walks or takes the metro?

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 3 points 1 month ago

clay is just as likely to drive as to catch public transport

I was there in the trenches of the soil wars. They were made of loam.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

Disagree, I really enjoyed the design and presentation of this graph.

[–] humble_boatsman@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Neat how all that data just fit nicely into a triangle too.

[–] TommyJohnsFishSpot@lemy.lol 12 points 1 month ago

This is a pretty standard way of showing proportions between 3 things; it wasn't invented for this graph specifically.

[–] mittyta@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Yes, I agree, that when I got this, it does become useful

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I am stuck in the hellhole known as the US and I hate cars.

This article confirms my rage, thank you lol.

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

In the US, walkability is a luxury. Being able to afford to live in a walkable area is expensive.

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You might like Mackinac Island...

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Wondering what European city that is just south of the "Dhaka" text.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's a shame that the source didn't publish raw data

[–] lemeteque@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Humanius@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm not sure if the question "How do you travel to work?" paints a complete picture.

I live in the Netherlands, and like many fellow countrymen I commute to work by car because it is the most convenient option. But other trips I make on a daily basis are usually either on foot or by bike, and if I go somewhere in the weekend I regularly take the train.

[–] Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Exactly what I was gonna point out. I travel my transit to work, but my wife uses the car just because it’s super convenient and closer. But on 50% of trips together we transit and 40% is car, and 10% is walking to our local breweries or bars.

I think this is only work data, which isn’t a great picture.

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

personally i didn't find the car to be the most convenient option, you have to look out for speed (lest you get fined), other drivers, need to find a parking spot, and so on... eh, I prefer public transit. Or going by foot. And on bike it's also easier to park somewhere.

But yeah, it doesn't exactly paint a whole picture because most people vary with how they travel.

[–] jinxedID@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ugh I already have too many projects and too little free time but making that chart interactive sounds cool...

[–] jinxedID@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Turns out you can find interactive visualizations of the data here https://citiesmoving.com/visualizations/ 🎉

[–] huppakee@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago

How about that sub-saharan city where 90% walk everywhere, also an outlier.

[–] Humanius@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

~~My guess would be either London, Paris or Berlin~~

Edit: I think I misunderstood which data point you were referring to

[–] huppakee@piefed.social 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Two more images from source (tap for spoiler)

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Only 4% in Utrecht using public transit? Seems farfetched. Probably that is referring rather to those who only ever use public transit. Most use both bicycle and public transit.

[–] huppakee@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago

It's not '% of people' but '% of journeys', so according to the data 1 in 25 journeys is with public transport. Still feels off to me, but could be they've tried to avarage the data according to the population and if it would for example include teens and elderly it would make a lot more sense already. I'm also not sure if they allowed for journeys with multiple modes of transport, if you for example cycle to the trainstation take a train and then walk to your destination will it count for 3 journeys (which would lower the % of journeys by car) or would it count as one (with public transport being left out of the count, artificially raising the % of journeys by active transportation)

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Latinamerican results are comparable to European best cities... surprisingly good

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 month ago

And they're barely trying. Latin American countries invest most of their transportation budgets into car infrastructure, even though the minority of citizens uses it. Why? Because Latin America.
Imagine what they could do if there was any political will.

[–] Eiri@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That implies that even Montreal doesn't go below 50% car use. I honestly didn't expect that. Everyone knows it's dumb to try to even get a car into the island.

[–] mereo@piefed.ca 6 points 1 month ago

Maybe with the new upcoming REM lines, car usage will decrease.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Drop into street view at a random intersection in Montreal and chances are you'll be able to see more cars than people. This is sadly still true for most cities in the western world, outside of their central business districts. We don't like to spent time in places where there are lots of cars so we bias ourselves, but most places still do have lots of cars.

[–] teft@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago

I live in a large latin american city and i’d say this is correct. Society at large here doesn’t seem to have a preference in people moving. We have great public transport as well as great bike lanes in addition to our normal streets and roads.