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[–] Venat0r@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago
[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 19 points 12 hours ago

Why... isn't he thrown out of a high building window in the last panel? I'm a bit disappointed now.
(OMG I sound almost like a Russian dictator).

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 20 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 11 points 12 hours ago

Without violence and therefore for cowards

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 72 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

I feel like contextual ads, where you serve ads based on the surrounding content instead of who the individual user is would be about as effective and tremendously less expensive, complicated, and invasive.

Run football ads on football websites. Run music ads on music websites. That's how it works in TV, radio, and so on and has for years.

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 16 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

wait do you mean its not useful to try and sell me another fridge because I just bought a fridge?

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 10 points 12 hours ago

Only if you're still browsing fridge websites!

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Put those on interior design and architecture websites. The people deciding what product serves what context will be smart enough to figure it out.

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 31 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I remember this being the norm 15-20 years ago.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago

Yes. Those are the ones that made web ads revolutionary and replaced all of the ad industry. Those are the ones that gave all the clear results.

And targeted ads have been highly related to fraud since the beginning.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Web 1.0, booo!!!

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

But that would mean that some of the richest companies and arguably the biggest business on the planet would become obsolete!

Actually scratch that, it looks like AI saved the day for them.

I hope my darkest cynicism on this topic comes across, if not: ///sssss

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 13 points 13 hours ago

No, no, we just add AI to the browsers, we don't need cookies when we're going.

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 55 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

There is actually an argument that advertisers like Google are abusing micro targeting to extract advertising revenue from clients while, at least in some cases, delivering few actual new customers.

Here's the process.

  1. Google sees that your profile (browsing habits, demographics, search patterns, etc) suggest you are interested in product A.
  2. Google blasts you with advertisements for product A, essentially marking your browser session and claiming you as a recipient of their advertising. Ever look at a particular product and find you are being advertised for that product incessantly for a while?
  3. If you happen to buy product A around the time that your session was shown an advertisement for that product, Google claims you as a conversion and gets paid for convincing you to buy the product. Advertising works!

So if Google's algorithm thinks you are already going to buy product A, they show you an ad for product A constantly because it means they'll claim you as an advertising success and get paid extra.

[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 21 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Ever look at a particular product and find you are being advertised for that product incessantly for a while?

No, I use uBlock origin and I only see online ads when I'm forced to look at someone else's computer.

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I literally had bets on whether or not someone would respond exactly as you did, bragging about never seeing ads because of ad blocking.

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 hours ago

Extra jack session today, the literal bet was clearly with themself.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 13 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

It is like encouragement for the thing you were already likely to do, which is the goal of targeted advertising.

Now if you purchased something, then got the ads afterwards and they counted it retroactively then they would be abusing it. I'm 99% sure they do that.

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

It is like encouragement for the thing you were already likely to do, which is the goal of targeted advertising.

It's the claim of targeted advertising. The person I saw talking about this actually ran the numbers, comparing two very similar geographic markets. In market A they paid for advertising, but in B they did not.

When comparing market A to market B, market A had a marginal increase in sales for the advertised product vs. market B. However, they were charged for orders of magnitude more conversions than the actual increase in sales.

The idea is that when compared to something like actual click-through purchases, where a user literally clicks on an ad and then buys a product, it's extremely deceptive.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

Now if you purchased something, then got the ads afterwards and they counted it retroactively then they would be abusing it. I'm 99% sure they do that.

That explains everything!

No doubt their ads are monthly/quarterly purchases. So Google reports the end of month "conversions" when in reality it's ads shown during the month but happened after the sale.

[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 83 points 20 hours ago (3 children)
[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 13 points 12 hours ago

My mind added this to the end automatically.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 8 points 13 hours ago

"Let's be realistic!"

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 5 points 17 hours ago

Nothing new under the sun

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 5 points 13 hours ago

"But now we have so many other ways of tracking people on the www, we can finally give in on this one specific, somewhat outdated thing called cookies, we really don't need it anymore."

[–] mapu@slrpnk.net 13 points 17 hours ago

Let's be realistic. This will not stop under capitalism. Any company that doesn't exploit their users and employees for the most amount of profit will get outcompeted and driven out of the market by a different company that does.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 24 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de 50 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

This was a 2021 comic, which I think was the time when companies had to comply with GDPR regulations. Cookies didn't go away, but companies had to explicitly ask the user for consent to use them [or atleast can't hide that they were using cookies]; usually in form of popups.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 30 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

ah, so that's why we get these notifications on every single website now ?

[–] Hjalamanger@feddit.nu 36 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Yes, and you can use Consent-0-Matic to fill then out automatically (and reject cookies). Works on at least most of the annoying ones

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 25 points 21 hours ago

I could kiss you right now.

I mean. I won't. You never consented to that. But if you're ever in Cleveland, and you wanna be kissed, well.....you know where to find me.

Actually you don't.

Ah, well, perhaps it wasn't meant to be. But hey! You listen to me right now! Keep on being you, and knowing things! The world needs more people who know usefull things! Thats how others learn.

And somewhere as a society, we've lost sight of that, by large. We've become distant as a people. We've lost the art of conversation! Gone are the days of people from opposite ends of the fence seeing each other as friends. Everybody is your enemy now, and everybody is divided. But why? Why now?

Money. Follow the money. If we're all fighting with each other, we can't fight with the rich. And who designed it that way? Certainly not the poor, or the middle class. We don't have trickle down ecconomics. We have gushing upwards ecconomics.

Like.....shits bad. This has to be late stage capitolism. The whole system is on brink of collapse. The rich can't take our money if we have no money. Which means they have no money. Nobody has money anymore, and we face a 1930s style great depression.

Actually, I was reading about the great depression. It didn't sound all that different from my life right now. And do you know what happened right after the great depression? We kicked the nazis asses!

So if there's one silver lining to how much shit the world is going through right now, it's this. There is a very non-zero chance I'll get to kick some nazi ass! Because god damn, are there a lot of them these days!

I'm generally pretty against murder. But killing a nazi? Well that seems more morally correct than NOT killing a nazi. So maybe I have that to look forward to. Yeah!

What was I talking about? Oh, right, yes. Thank you for the cookie tip. It's going to make my PC internet back to it's authentic self.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

Yea I am using it ! But it works with only a subset of websites

thanks for the recommendation in any case

[–] ButteryMonkey@piefed.social 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

You might want to try Ghostery. It’s similar to ublock (probably I’ve never used ublock).

It auto-denies all possible cookies, randomizes your location and fingerprinting information, and blocks ads and stuff (good for if you use pihole but need to use a public VPN for something, or mobile browsing or whatever)

I’ve never found a site it didn’t work with, tho it’s possible, I’m sure. It’s also one of the only extensions available for iOS browsers that does all the things, at least that I’ve been able to find.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 2 points 12 hours ago

Thanls for the recommendation !

[–] 5A7A@feddit.org 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I've had better results with enabling the cookie-notice blocklist in ublock origin

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 2 points 14 hours ago

Didn't know about that.... will check it out thanks

[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

There is also I still don't care about cookies.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 2 points 21 hours ago (2 children)
[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 2 points 18 hours ago
[–] kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

I think he refers to the browser extension of the same name.

[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

~~Of the same type. :-)~~

Edit: I thought you mean of the same as Consent-O-Matic, not what you actually meant.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 2 points 20 hours ago

ok will look it up cheers

[–] florge@feddit.uk 13 points 20 hours ago

Took me a while to realise they weren't selling cookies, but instead meant internet cookies.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

He wasn't realistic. In the end they're trying to sell an undercooked product or service, preferably full of subscriptions, and these days likely AI slop held together with duct tape, so they don't have much choice but tricking customers into handing over money.

[–] itkovian@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Yeah Alan, be realistic. We are too addicted to sniffing up consumer data to just give up. Even if internet ads, targeted or otherwise, are not really liked by anyone.

[–] ook@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)