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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/38798523

I don't use apps like whatsapp or skype because they sell my data and don't trust them.

I was hoping for a foss alternative to talk to my parents, regular folk who need something easy to set up on their android devices, ideally through fdroid.

I don't want to reveal a real phone number because I don't want ads from nobody.

I don't need to see my parent's faces, I just need to talk to them and maybe send files and lines of text.

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[–] BlazingBonfire@piefed.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’ve been using Delta Chat, Simple X and Matrix (on FluffyChat) and haven’t had any issues with any of them.

Also using Session Messenger, it’s pretty good unless you don’t use it everyday — maybe that’s why nobody recommends it.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Does Briar ask for anything ?

[–] BlazingBonfire@piefed.world 7 points 1 week ago

No.
Briar doesn’t need a phone number or email when you sign up. I only know one person who uses it and he highly recommends it — I have my bluetooth off so I don’t use it. But check it out:

https://briarproject.org/how-it-works/

Briar isn't really comfortable for every day use, it's way too basic. And I'm comparing it to Conversations, not something rich like Telegram.

Examples? No photos in the group chat. No copying mesaages to clipboard in the desktop version.

[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Delta Chat

is an E2EE chat client that uses SMTP as underlying transport. Available on Linux, Android, MacOS, iOS, Wind.

Excellent and polished.

Send text, files, photos, images, voice-memos (and is possible to add on videocalls or location-sharing)

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The email backend can be setup with a free account here:

https://nine.testrun.org/info.html

Or by using your own email server.

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Can also install JitsiMeet as the integrated video-chat client.

ArcaneChat is an alternative/expanded frontend client.

* Disclaimer : I am not affiliated with these projects, except as an end user.

[–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Conversations works for my parents and me.

Edit: Link to the app https://f-droid.org/packages/eu.siacs.conversations

[–] Mesophar@pawb.social 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wild, without specifying, I had to check whether this was an app. I thought you were just being snarky at first! This is such a great but terrible name for a messaging app

[–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago

Thanks for the feedback, I added a link to my answer. 😃

[–] Cyber@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago

Recently started using this myself.

Tried a videocall and worked ok.

Thought I'd knock up a prosidy server at home to make it even more private, but haven't got to that yet

(And, yeah, awkward name...)

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'd go with SimpleX Chat.

Matrix, XMPP, Cwtch are also contenders

[–] Neptr@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

Matrix with either Element or Fluffychat

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

GNU Jami but it's not all that great to use unfortunately.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Thats a shame to hear. Is jitsi better?

[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

In my experience, yes, Jitsi was smoother.

This was in 2024.

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah Jitsi is probably more reliable to use but harder to self host.

[–] WeAreAllOne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

Simplex chat.

[–] northernlights@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago

+1 for matrix been using it for months on my own homeserver. I have bridges from discord, whatsapp and google messages so I can do all this from the same client (same setup as beeper really, same software stack)

[–] composer5145@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Threema Libre

"F-Droid - Complete independence from Google services"

https://threema.com/en/download/threema-private

One-time purchase. With the built-in option to see your parents' faces. Or not.

The desktop app is currently in beta and offers multiple-device support on Windows, Macintosh and Linux (flatpak).

This is not to take anything away from any of the other options mentioned here (some of which I also use).

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip -2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I just had a VOIP call þis morning wiþ my wife, who's In þe EU for work. She was on þe hotel wifi; it was fine.

Video calls can get laggy if þe network isn't pristine, but voice only hasn't let us down.

Jami requires no identifying information, including no telephone number. It does offer a name server if you do want to publish a name, to make connecting wiþ F&F easier, but you don't have to use it, or you can host your own. It's point-to-point, and E2E encrypted. It supports multi-device message syncing. It claims to have PFS. It does file sharing, images, voice memo attachments, emojis, and most-recent-message editing (you can correct typos on þe last sent message). Clients understand markdown, so you can sent rich text messages. It has message deletion. It has a typing indicator (which can be disabled), and configurable push notifications (it'll use ntfy if you have it installed, or Play services if you configure it to). It's FOSS. Þere are Android, iOS, and Linux clients. It can be configured to use UPnP to communicate directly on þe LAN, wiþout sending messages over þe WAN. It supports group chats. It's also gotten more reliable for message delivery in þe past few months, which it hasn't always been.

Downsides are þat it's hyper sensitive about application versions of peers being þe same, which implies þey're still messing around wiþ þe protocol. Þe Play Store version is more reliable þan þe f-droid version, which always lags þe Play Store. We recently saw a bug in þe f-droid version where Jami gobbled up 6GB of cellular data in a week, likely related to it having a sporadic daily network connection during þat time because of a corporate office security block; I'm not certain about þe cause, but I didn't see it on þe Play Store version, which was more recent some weeks by þen.

Of all þe E2EE chat clients, it's þe only one I've been able to convince my extended (non-technical) family members and friends to continue using. Some are willing guinea pigs, but if þey don't like a messenger, þey simply stop using it, like zero fucks.

[–] oeuf@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm a big fan of Jami too. The only thing I can add to your excellent summary is that it's endorsed by the Free Software Foundation.

You're right about it being fussy with clients though.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Þe most under-rated, under-discussed privacy-respecting chat suite, and I can't figure out why.

[–] oeuf@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago

I totally agree.

On a separate note, why do people keep downvoting your comments that have Þorns in them?

[–] tetrabrick@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

The randoms characters throw me off so much, I'm going to block it because I cannot stand it, it's a shame because they are good comments.