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[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 40 points 3 months ago (2 children)

All they had to do to win was nothing. Everyone already blamed republicans. They couod have just sat on their hands until Trump caved.

The plan was to do nothing and they still failed

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 3 months ago

Yeah literally just had to sit there and wait, but I guess stopping weapons shipments was the final straw for them.

[–] AF_R@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Respectfully, liberals blamed Republicans.

The working class, and most of America, blames the Dems, and no matter how much reality you feed them, no matter how bad material conditions get, their brains are too damaged by propaganda to understand anything except “Dem bad, illegals bad, welfare bad”.

Part of this is Dems allowing the Overton ratchet to exist as controlled opposition. It’s the logical conclusion to their game. This could only ever end one way, and it’s the way we are seeing it now.

The USA has a long, long, long way to fall.

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

they did polling and found that a majority of people blame the Republicans, which has a lot to do with the fact that they control every branch

[–] into_highest_invite@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 months ago

the working class isn't the gop's target base, the petty bourgeoisie is. in fact, it's pretty rare for dems to lose any high-turnout presidential election, because the majority of americans don't own businesses. i doubt the average member of the working class spends a whole lot of time hating welfare, dems, or even immigrants. even if you don't consider the polls, the president gets blamed for everything.

The USA has a long, long, long way to fall.

Poks.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

The working class, and most of America, blames the Dems, and no matter how much reality you feed them, no matter how bad material conditions get, their brains are too damaged by propaganda to understand anything except “Dem bad, illegals bad, welfare bad”.

The working class, and most of America don't suppory Republicans. They also don't support Dems. They usually don't vote for obvious reasons. Polling showed most of the country blamed Republicans.

The working class is not the Republican base. Its not the Dem base either, but this is a pretty strange view of the working class in the US and most of Americans. Respectfully

[–] BioWarfarePosadist@hexbear.net 40 points 3 months ago (2 children)

God, Dems are going to fall for these Republican lies so hard. When will the Dems learn that once you give a Republican anything... I mean ANYTHING... that they will turn around and tell everyone that they made the thing all by themselves and do not feel beholden to pay back or return the favor EVER.

Once they have what they want it doesn't matter who owes who what. It's FUCK YOU I GOT MINE. The number one driving motivation of most conservatives.

[–] SupFBI@hexbear.net 50 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

They're not falling for anything. They just suck. They want it over and need something to tell the media and West wing brained libs.

[–] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago

Pretty much this. I think so many of them are west wing brained big time, and think they're being just sooo righteous and taking one on the chin for the little guy right now, and then the voters will truly see who loves them the most come the midterms. They're fucking dumb.

[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 23 points 3 months ago

They’re literally just mad their flights got delayed

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If the gop removed the filibuster it would make the Dems job much harder next time they're in power because their voters might start thinking they have the means to actually accomplish something, so they had to cave now

[–] Nadie_AZ@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

They didn't fall for anything. This is who they are. They are telling you who they are in doing this. The GOP set the agenda and the Dems are there to capture the backlash and dissipate it. That's it. Even when the GOP are in the minority and the Dems have a super majority. The GOP is the ruling party and has been for decades now.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 35 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"You loose! You get nothing!"

The only new additions to the emerging deal are provisions reversing government layoffs ordered during the shutdown, language preventing new layoffs through the duration of the stopgap and back pay for federal workers — which is already required under a 2019 law.

Notably, there is no guarantee that the Obamacare subsidies will be extended — and no commitment from Republican House leaders to even hold a vote at all on the subsidies.

Still, the deal was good enough for seven Senate Democrats and one independent: Sens. Catherine Cortez Masto, D-Nev., Dick Durbin, D-Ill., John Fetterman, D-Pa., Maggie Hassan, D-N.H., Tim Kaine, D-Va., Angus King, I-Maine, Jackie Rosen, D-Nev., and Jeanne Shaheen, D-N.H.

Not only do you get nothing, you also get to gear up to do it all over again in January:

Even if, as expected, both chambers pass the bill and President Donald Trump signs it, most of the government will only be funded through that stopgap bill going until Jan. 30.

Congress could be back to another standoff in a matter of weeks. And if the subsidies issue hasn’t been resolved by then, Republicans may have an even more difficult time persuading Democrats to come along on another funding bill.

When Shaheen was asked Sunday night if Democrats would be willing to vote against government funding in January — if Republicans hadn’t extended the subsidies — she said that was “certainly an option that I think everybody will consider.”

Fucking dipshits.

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago

Like the Dems will have any spine left for another shutdown...

[–] jack@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago
[–] Finger@hexbear.net 25 points 3 months ago

no more half measures walter

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 25 points 3 months ago

They are so fucking stupid.

[–] Palacegalleryratio@hexbear.net 24 points 3 months ago
[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago
[–] nocturnedragonite@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 3 months ago

Lmfao can't even just do nothing to win I'm so weak 😂

[–] LeninWalksTheEarth@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Republicans: "Hey Democrats, we pinky pwomise to vote on the thing we didn't want in the budget."

Democrats: "golly gee, you're such great friends!"

THE REPUBLICANS AREN'T GOING TO LET YOU GET 60 VOTES TO GET THE ACA EXTENSION. LIKE WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS. WE KNOW THIS IS ON PURPOSE, YOURE NOT THAT STUPID.

[–] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago

HAHAHAHAH they just funded it for the treat holidays then we're back to millions of starving children AND no more ADA

clowns

[–] rubber_chicken@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago

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