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[–] kirkoman@sh.itjust.works 206 points 4 days ago (3 children)

You could say they were gathering intel.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Touche! Nice one!

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 2 days ago

Intel ~~inside~~ outside.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 95 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Good for them! I hope they won’t get caught.

More people should rebel and hurt the companies like this. They’re laying people off not because there isn’t work, but because they don’t want to pay. All of the companies doing layoffs are also hiring, only they’ve created a market of desperation so they know they can give workers shitty deals.

Intel and all the other big corpos deserve this.

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Pretty sure this is one of those cases of chinese espionage.

Probably has been going on for a long time too.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I don't really care who is hurting large corporations as long as they're being hurt

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Well, we don't actually know what was taken.

Depending on the information this could be anything from basic technical information to all the state sponsored backdoor tooling they've implemented across their stack.

The former might "hurt" them on some level if chinese companies steal their designs and sell them as counterfeit, but the latter has security implications for anybody with intel gear from the poorest individuals to the wealthiest companies.

Just saying, you never know how this could impact things down the road.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Nah, I think the latter would be great. Sure, short term it could cause issues, though not really for the average person. China will use it to influence politics for those people maybe, but they don't have any large use for it. The US government has far more use for it in regard to them, so that's actually a threat. It would be a risk for the government and western companies.

The benefit of this being lost to China is they'd have to fix what backdoors they can, and maybe reconsider creating new ones. This is a huge benefit to American consumers. It only hurts those who asked for the backdoors in the first place, which is presumably the US government.

I don't live in China, so I'm not really worried about China's government. I live in the US, so I'm worried about the US government.

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Zero chance of them not replacing or patching backdoors if another actor gets access.

China having a backdoor into everybody's intel systems is terrible. Nobody should have backdoors into our computers. There are no impartial, apolitical or morally or ethically positive organization out there. Bias is literally everywhere.

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[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

In a more sane world they'd reconsider the monstrous fucking back doors

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[–] atmorous@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Everybody laid off needs to make new companies together as well. Good ones not on stock market that are unionized

[–] Cavemanfreak@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago (3 children)

In cases like this it's reaaaally hard to just start up a new competitor from nothing (assets wise). Building up production is not cheap.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Dude i made a microprocessor out of some scrap wood and copper wire I found behind a dumpster.

It has a bad habit of catching fire but im pretty sure with a few billion dollars of investment ill be able to create the greatest computer chip ever made

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Here, I'll back you with three fiddy. Now I expect a 1758956% increase of my investment in the next 3 years, else I'll take my money elsewhere.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Cavemanfreak@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Don't be so quick! I'll double his offer (but triple the demand for returns)

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Idiots. I'm rich, I'm fucking rich!!!!

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[–] survirtual@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

They already thought of that possibility and have taken over the legal system to mitigate. Corporate patents & NDAs will have some complaints.

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[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 64 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Oh, no! Someone is going to get what was world leading technology if it was 8 years ago this might be a problem.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Not sure what you are refering to.

According to The Mercury News, Jinfeng Luo, who started at Intel in 2014, received a termination notice last July 7th, ending his service with the company at the same month.

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 76 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

They're saying Intel's chips suck compared to the competition now, so the data stolen is for technology that is worse than other chips available already (or soon to be available, depending on what was stolen).

[–] papertowels@mander.xyz 3 points 3 days ago

My money is on chinas domestic CPU production. They've been pursuing that for a while now, but have always been years behind even Intel. They're the only ones I can think of that would be able to leverage this info to significantly improve.

[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 63 points 4 days ago (3 children)

"cannot be located" lmao homie's on a tropical beach now, suckers

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 60 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

More likely Shenzhen. Tropical beaches tend to have extradition treaties. :D

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Cuba may not have an extradition treaty with the US, but I somehow doubt you can just arrive there, as a relatively well known person of interest and stay there without giving the local thugs a cut.

I would speculate he is working with the CCP.

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[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

my geography's trash cuz I'm an American moron but I thought China had at least a few tropical beaches

They do, yeah

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Dudes in China almost certainly

Good for him

[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago

tropical beaches with really good public transit and bitchin noodles

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Hopefully it'll be on the darkweb

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 25 points 4 days ago

Kind of seems like the files aren't that valuable if they're only trying to get $250k. Like that's a large amount of money for most people, but for a big company suing for its IP, that doesn't sound like that much tbh.

[–] snipingsnipe@piefed.social 5 points 3 days ago

Full leaks of IME architectures would definitely a 1 on the scoreboard against us and... uh, whoever in the late-2000s/early-2010s believed it to be priority to implement this great technology for everyone! AMD PSP next please.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (3 children)

How ho you detect someone stole files nowadays? Did they have them printed out on a bookshelf?

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Every single access is logged on such systems, regardless what kind of file hosting you use.

An employee suddenly accessing tons of files, potentially in indexing order (meaning they're either clicking through every link, every folder, every file, or are using an automated tool that does exactly the same), now that's suspicious.

Combine that with logs from their terminal, which would usually contain things like downloads, file operations, as well as external storage connection/disconnection events, and you can basically get a near perfect map of what they stole and how.

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[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Someone downloading full datasets that would rarely happen in the regular course of work (unless there was special projec tor some sort).

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