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Ford might kill the F-150 Lightning, the EV that was supposed to change everything
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Give me a $20K electric Ford Ranger please
this post was submitted on 09 Nov 2025
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90s style with a full bed and a single cab with no infotainment bullshit while we're at it.
If you're going to talk about the Slate just mention it by name https://www.slate.auto/en
Well that's certainly the closest thing I've seen to what I'm looking for.
The Slate truck looks promising but unfortunately for me it's in the USA and who knows when they'll actually hit the road.
Yeah, it looks cool so I won't hold my breath. I don't expect cool things to actually happen anymore.
$20K??? how can you expect execs to buy their second yachts with that kind of pocket change?!
Its a cool truck IF you dont need to tow anything.
But a LOT of contractors tow trailers. Building supply trailers, tool trailers, heavy equipment trailers, air compressor trailers and then on the weekend pulling holiday trailers, boat trailers and sometimes car trailers or moving trailers - there's a lot of things that get pulled by pickups - and they royally suck for range once you're pulling. Range drops very dramatically.
Its one thing to pull into a gas station and refuel but MOST charging stations aren't even set up as pull throughs, so a trailer is a major pain in the butt. The entire point of a new 'tool' like the Lightning is to make your life easier and more convenient, not less.
I will say though, that the new Silverado EV has surprisingly long range for an EV. Reportedly up to 800 km with no load and even at half range, 400 km while towing is still usable, not outstanding, but usable.
Aging wheels debunked this: https://youtu.be/UmKf8smvGsA
There are multiple *reputable *car and truck magazines that say range of the F150 Lightning drops in half while towing. https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/ford-f150-lightning-electric-truck-towing-test
MotorTrend real world range with no trailer: 255 miles.
Range with light, medium and heavy trailer: 115, 100 and 90 miles.
BIG range killer. Heavy trailer kills range to almost 1/3 of unloaded range.
The Lightning is particularly bad for towing.
I deleted my previous reply as I did not properly read the article you linked. Motortrend briefly touch on the point that the Aging Wheels video goes into much more depth on. That it is aerodynamic efficiency, not weight that has the significant impact on range. This is an important distinction. Tools, construction materials, etc. weigh what they weigh, altering that variable to a significant degree is not really a feasable proposal and does rule out electric vehicles in general for viable long distance towing if this was the major impacting factor. Improving aerodynamic efficiency of heavy towed loads as a major impacting factor however is a much more viable strategy.
I think a more accurate criticism is that electric vehicles are a poor choice for towing aerodynamicly inefficient loads long distance, as whilst the efficiency loss impacts all vehicle types, the energy carrying capacity and recharge times of many current electric vehicles make them a worse choice.
That seems like a lot of words to say EV trucks suck at towing especially the Lightning.
The very nature of almost all trailers is that they dont have great aerodynamics, especially holiday trailers, a primary reason why people buy a pickup truck.
That doesn't mean that it is financially unviable to improve tailers, to the benefit of both gas and electric vehicles. With the advent of Airshaper, CFD is commercially viable for trailer companies R&D if there is demand.
About 2/3 of truck owners rarely or never tow.
Shocker. An even heavier and more expensive version of their already massive and expensive road tank isn't selling.
The only reason I wouldn't want a tank is the fuel costs. I'd be making grocery runs in a Sherman EV, living my best life.
without the turret and chassis.
Speak for yourself
At least you'd have style. Might damage roads
Tradespeople need an ev, but a $100,000 emotional support wagon probably isn't it.
$70k+ is insane for that truck.
conservatives arnt exactly the brightest bunch when it comes to purchasing. on the hindsight, this is why byd was made 100% so us companies can charge overpriced cars.
I’d love one, except I live in an apartment, it wouldn’t fit in my garage, it makes no sense to own one in the city, and I’m lucky to pay rent these days much less pay it again for a truck I have nowhere to put and nowhere to use.
All this is why I got a used Fiesta instead.
An EV Fiesta (or Escort or Focus) would fill the needs of a vastly undeserved segment of the population.
Even moreso if it was cheap. Not 30k, try 10, 15. Everyone should be able to afford one.
Best they can do is that shitty Puma
I'm kind of surprised. Every contractor I know who has them, loves them, saves them a ton of money.
Well that's not surprising given the fact that the vehicle is completely unusable outside of North America.